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Mexico ties flooding in Nogales to U.S. Border Patrol-built wall
Arizona Daily Star (Tucson) ^ | 07.23.2008 | Brady McCombs

Posted on 07/23/2008 12:50:32 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru

Mexican officials say a concrete barrier constructed by the U.S. Border Patrol in a storm-water tunnel beneath Nogales appears to be on Mexican soil and was the main cause of serious flooding July 12 in Nogales, Sonora.

The flooding caused about $8 million in damage in Nogales, Sonora, the officials say.

The 5-foot-high wall on the floor of the tunnel in front of a gate was put in without notifying the International Boundary and Water Commission, said Sally Spener, spokeswoman for the U.S. section of the commission. The commission requests that any agency doing work on the border that could affect storm drainage send it plans.

"We do have concerns about structures that are placed on the international boundary that could affect storm-water flow," Spener said.

The U.S. side of the commission hasn't yet determined if the barrier caused the flooding, Spener said. It's important to remember the Mexican side of the tunnel was old and in poor condition, she said.

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... But on July 12, when heavy rains fell in the border region, the new concrete barrier served as a bottleneck, causing the water to fill up on the Mexican side of the channel and pressure the aging structure, Quintanar said.

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A concrete aboveground border wall east of the wash further escalated the damage by stopping the water that spilled onto Calle Internacional and Calle Elias from flowing into the United States. The barrier in the wash, however, was the catalyst for the flood, he said.

The $8 million in damage caused by the flood includes damage to 578 homes and 45 cars, Mexican officials say. State officials have declared the damaged part of the city a disaster zone.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borderfence; bordersecurity; environment; flood; immigrantlist; immigration; nogales
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The Law of Unintended Consequences just keeps on keeping on.
1 posted on 07/23/2008 12:50:32 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru
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To: IonImplantGuru

Maybe this problem wouldn’t have arisen if the Mexicans didn’t regularly use the tunnel for drug and people smuggling. That was my first thought, and the article confirms it.

“Although built in the 1930s to channel storm runoff and prevent flooding, the tunnel beneath Nogales has been used for decades by smugglers as an avenue into the United States.”


2 posted on 07/23/2008 12:54:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: IonImplantGuru

Cry me a river Mexico. Pun intended.


3 posted on 07/23/2008 12:55:23 PM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: IonImplantGuru
The Law of Unintended Consequences just keeps on keeping on.

You mean the unintended consequences of Mexico aggressively encouraging and assisting its people to illegally invade our country, thus requiring us to put up barriers to keep them out?

4 posted on 07/23/2008 12:55:40 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Cicero
“Although built in the 1930s to channel storm runoff and prevent flooding, the tunnel beneath Nogales has been used for decades by smugglers as an avenue into the United States.”

Maybe if Mexico would have put strong bars on the entrances, we wouldn't have found it necessary to put up the wall.

5 posted on 07/23/2008 12:58:01 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: IonImplantGuru

That filthy town needed a good cleaning!


6 posted on 07/23/2008 12:58:06 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: IonImplantGuru

I demand Mexico repay me my taxes used for the free US health care given their citizens!


7 posted on 07/23/2008 1:00:18 PM PDT by Coffee200am ("We should all be living in mud huts and riding bicycles to avoid killing the polar bears..."/s)
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To: IonImplantGuru
The U.S. side of the commission hasn't yet determined if the barrier caused the flooding, ...

Just tell 'em it was global warming, that should cover it.

8 posted on 07/23/2008 1:00:48 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: IonImplantGuru

“State officials have declared the damaged part of the city a disaster zone.”
Oxymoron: Mexican border towns are by definition disaster zones.


9 posted on 07/23/2008 1:04:13 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: tumblindice

oxymoron=redundancy


10 posted on 07/23/2008 1:05:44 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: IonImplantGuru

Cleaning up the town the Mexicans won’t clean.


11 posted on 07/23/2008 1:19:37 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: IonImplantGuru
Well, if we didn't notify them that we were building the wall, then we probably should have done so. I'm not buying that it is on Mexican soil, nor do I think that any flooding is our fault.

However, it's only being good neighbors to let them know that the new wall was built so they could evaluate it's effects on their precautions to deal with flood waters.

If we didn't notify them, I wouldn't bother apologizing at this point, because that might be seen as accepting blame where none exists. However, it would be good to try and notify them of such things in the future.

12 posted on 07/23/2008 1:22:35 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Cicero
The Nogales, Mexico storm drainage culvert runs parallel to, not perpendicular to, the wall which separates the two Nogaleses. Smugglers trying to tunnel under the wall and into the U.S. repeatedly poked holes in the drainage culvert, until it collapsed. Then they had a heavy rain, and it flooded. All this is somehow OUR fault? This entire story is an attempt by the Mexicans to get money from us to fix their storm drainage system. Anything bad happens, they expect us to pay. Anything good happens, they expect us to pay. Here is my parasite story:

Why Mexican illegals are driving America "cuckoo":

Why doesn't Mexico take care of its own people? Why do they instead encourage their poor to leave Mexico and invade the United States? Nature provides a parallel that is instructive.

Some species of birds thrive not by carefully rearing their own young, but by pawning that task off on adults of other species. The European Cuckoo, whose distinctive call is immortalized in the sound of the "cuckoo clock," is the bird in which this habit has been most thoroughly studied. Female European Cuckoos lay their eggs only in the nests of other species of birds. A cuckoo egg usually closely mimics the eggs of the host (one of whose eggs is often removed by the cuckoo).

The host may recognize the intruding egg and abandon the nest, or it may incubate and hatch the cuckoo egg. Shortly after hatching, the young European Cuckoo, using a scoop-like depression on its back, instinctively shoves over the edge of the nest any solid object that it contacts. With the disappearance of their eggs and rightful young, the foster parents are free to devote all of their care to the young cuckoo. Frequently this is an awesome task, since the cuckoo chick often grows much larger than the host adults long before it can care for itself. One of the tragicomic scenes in nature is a pair of small foster parents working like Sisyphus to keep up with the voracious appetite of an outsized young cuckoo.

13 posted on 07/23/2008 1:23:38 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: IonImplantGuru

Oh PUUULLEEZE. There is nothing even collectively worth 8 million in all of Mexico let alone in Nogales.


14 posted on 07/23/2008 1:24:55 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Be good and you will be lonesome. FREE LAZAMATAZ!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


15 posted on 07/23/2008 2:09:48 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: IonImplantGuru
The flooding caused about $8 million in damage in Nogales

All of Nogales isn't worth $8 million

16 posted on 07/23/2008 2:19:13 PM PDT by Regulator (Obama = Mugabe)
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To: IonImplantGuru
Mexican officials say a concrete barrier constructed by the U.S. Border Patrol in a storm-water tunnel beneath Nogales appears to be on Mexican soil and was the main cause of serious flooding July 12 in Nogales, Sonora.

Is this a flood of water or a flood of wannabe illegals backing up in the Mexican countryside now that the US has plugged up a hole through our border?
/S

17 posted on 07/23/2008 2:27:32 PM PDT by RJL
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To: untrained skeptic

It is on the Mexican side by about 10 feet. Tucson’s Channel 13 ran video last night. They said, when asked about construction of the wall, that the Border Patrol did not answer their questions.

This article’s statement of fact regarding construction should probably be taken with a grain of salt...


18 posted on 07/23/2008 2:30:22 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: 3AngelaD

Last night’s video made it look like the wall was built parallel to a locked gate (vertical steel bars) directly beneath the border fence.

Is that consistent with what you’re saying? I did I misinterpret what Channel 13 showed us?


19 posted on 07/23/2008 2:33:25 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: HiJinx; 3AngelaD

I did I = Or did I


20 posted on 07/23/2008 2:33:58 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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