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Mexico ties flooding in Nogales to U.S. Border Patrol-built wall
Arizona Daily Star (Tucson) ^ | 07.23.2008 | Brady McCombs

Posted on 07/23/2008 12:50:32 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru

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To: IonImplantGuru

OK, Mehico, just deduct the $8 million from the money you owe us for the medical care for the millions and millions of your citizens who are illegally in our country.


21 posted on 07/23/2008 2:43:04 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: IonImplantGuru
"The flooding caused about $8 million in damage in Nogales, Sonora, the officials say."

More correctly, 'The flooding caused about $8 million in improvements...'

22 posted on 07/23/2008 2:45:35 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: Cicero

This cannot be. Senator DiFi, came to san diego a couple of years ago and proclaimed tunnels to be illegal....


23 posted on 07/23/2008 3:26:10 PM PDT by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: Cicero
Maybe this problem wouldn’t have arisen if the Mexicans didn’t regularly use the tunnel for drug and people smuggling. That was my first thought, and the article confirms it.

“Although built in the 1930s to channel storm runoff and prevent flooding, the tunnel beneath Nogales has been used for decades by smugglers as an avenue into the United States.”

Yes, and it is not a good idea for Mexico's storm drains to empty into the U.S. in any case; sometimes the floodwaters contain sewage due to the bad plumbing in Mexico.

Mexico needs to figure out how to drain their storm runoff in their own country- they also need to figure out how to do a lot of other things without depending on us.

24 posted on 07/23/2008 4:48:06 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: HiJinx

That is consistent with what I am saying, although it looked to me like there were several different kinds of fence there. The Mexicans are claiming that grate caused the flood. They are not mentioning their tunneling efforts through the drainage culvert, which caused it to collapse way before the rain, or the fact that their drainage culvert was built without rebar to reinforce it! It is all our fault. There was a story in one of the Spanish newspapers where they were claiming our grate is on Mexican soil. And I am sure, using Aztec surveying equipment and techniques, they can prove it.


25 posted on 07/23/2008 6:26:07 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: HiJinx

Forgot to say, for a good look at what goes on underneath Nogales, see: http://subtopia.blogspot.com/2006/12/orwellian-wormholes.html


26 posted on 07/23/2008 6:27:54 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD; HiJinx

I can’t tell you how many times I was there and saw holes cut through the chain link fence. That concrete work is on both sides if I’m not mistaken. The work on the Nogales side is some of the worst I have ever seen. Granted it’s been a while since I crossed that border but things rarely change there.

I delivered appliances in Nogales once a week and visited there all the time, my bro-in-law lived there.


27 posted on 07/23/2008 6:34:10 PM PDT by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: IonImplantGuru

I’ll wait for the US version instead of Mexico’s. To hear them tell it, everything that is wrong with Mexico is our fault. Even acts of God.


28 posted on 07/23/2008 8:07:06 PM PDT by AuntB ( “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” - George Orwel)
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To: ladtx

“Just tell ‘em it was global warming, that should cover it. “

Mexico will blame that on us too.


29 posted on 07/23/2008 8:08:54 PM PDT by AuntB ( “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” - George Orwel)
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To: untrained skeptic

” Well, if we didn’t notify them that we were building the wall, then we probably should have done so. I’m not buying that it is on Mexican soil, nor do I think that any flooding is our fault.

However, it’s only being good neighbors to let them know that the new wall was built so they could evaluate it’s effects on their precautions to deal with flood waters.

If we didn’t notify them, I wouldn’t bother apologizing at this point, because that might be seen as accepting blame where none exists. However, it would be good to try and notify them of such things in the future.”

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I can’t believe Mexico wasn’t consulted. That’s what half the fuss was over when this was passed, that DHS insisted on consulting Mexico over everything. I think Mexico is doing what they do best, whining.


30 posted on 07/23/2008 8:12:31 PM PDT by AuntB ( “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” - George Orwel)
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To: Tammy8
Yes, and it is not a good idea for Mexico's storm drains to empty into the U.S. in any case; sometimes the floodwaters contain sewage due to the bad plumbing in Mexico.
Mexico needs to figure out how to drain their storm runoff in their own country- they also need to figure out how to do a lot of other things without depending on us.

Even they can't defy gravity, Tammy. Water (and sewage) flow downhill; from Nogales any flow goes NORTH (across the border into the US), because that's downhill, and goes into the Santa Cruz River channel. The Santa Cruz flows north past Tucson and eventually joins the Gila River, which flows west and eventually joins the Colorado R. which drains to the Gulf of California. With the exception of the Colorado of course, I don't know if that entire system has ever actually had flowing water for the entire length in the last century or more ... but local portions do flood during our 'monsoon' season, which is upon us this time of year.

Bottom line: there's no way Mexico can engineer it to do other than flow across the border into the US. At best they could redirect the 'point of entry'.

31 posted on 07/24/2008 2:40:30 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!)
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