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American physicists warned not to debate global warming
The Register ^ | 21 July 2008 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 07/21/2008 9:54:26 AM PDT by BufordP

Bureaucrats at the American Physical Society (APS) have issued a curious warning to their members about an article in one of their own publications. Don't read this, they say - we don't agree with it. But what is it about the piece that is so terrible, that like Medusa, it could make men go blind?

It's an article that examines the calculation central to climate models. As the editor of the APS's newsletter American Physics Jeffrey Marque explains, the global warming debate must be re-opened.

"There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for the global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution. Since the correctness or fallacy of that conclusion has immense implications for public policy and for the future of the biosphere, we thought it appropriate to present a debate within the pages of P&S concerning that conclusion," he wrote (http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/editor.cfm).

American Physics invited both believers and sceptics to submit articles, and has published a submission by Viscount Monckton questioning (http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/monckton.cfm) the core calculation of the greenhouse gas theory: climate sensitivity. The believers are represented (http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/hafemeister.cfm) by two physicists from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, who state that:

"Basic atmospheric models clearly predict that additional greenhouse gasses will raise the temperature of Earth. To argue otherwise, one must prove a physical mechanism that gives a reasonable alternative cause of warming. This has not been done. Sunspot and temperature correlations do not prove causality."

But within a few days, Monckton's piece carried a health warning: in bright red ink.

The following article has not undergone any scientific peer review. Its conclusions are in disagreement with the overwhelming opinion of the world scientific community. The Council of the American Physical Society disagrees with this article's conclusions.

Not so much Medusa, then, as Nanny telling the children what not to think.

"The first sentence is nothing more or less than a deliberate lie," writes (http://numberwatch.co.uk/2008%20July.htm) Professor John Brignell on his Numberwatch blog. "The second is, to say the least, contentious; while the third is an outrageous example of ultra vires interference by a committee in the proper conduct of scientific debate."

Monckton has asked for an apology. In a letter to the APS President Arthur Bienenstock, he writes:

"If the Council has not scientifically evaluated or formally considered my paper, may I ask with what credible scientific justification, and on whose authority, the offending text asserts primo, that the paper had not been scientifically reviewed when it had; secundo, that its conclusions disagree with what is said (on no evidence) to be the "overwhelming opinion of the world scientific community"; and, tertio, that "The Council of the American Physical Society disagrees with this article's conclusions"? Which of my conclusions does the Council disagree with, and on what scientific grounds (if any)?"

Believers and sceptics have spent the past few days examining the value of "peer review", and the weight of validity that should be placed on "publication". Monckton is a classics scholar and former journalist, which believers maintain is enough to disqualify him from holding an opinion.

(Whether it's science is not in question - whether it's "good science" or "bad science" is the question. An earlier presentation by Monckton examining questioning climate sensitivity received was examined (http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/11/cuckoo-science/) by NASA's Gavin Schmidt on the believers' blog, RealClimate.org.)

But for anyone without a dog in this race, and perhaps not familiar with the "state of the science" there may be a couple of surprises in Monckton's paper.

One is how small the field of "experts" really is. The UN's IPCC is tasked with producing a summary of the "scientific consensus" and claims to process the contributions of some 2,500 scientists. But as Monckton writes:

"It is of no little significance that the IPCC’s value for the coefficient in the CO2 forcing equation depends on only one paper in the literature; that its values for the feedbacks that it believes account for two-thirds of humankind’s effect on global temperatures are likewise taken from only one paper; and that its implicit value of the crucial parameter κ depends upon only two papers, one of which had been written by a lead author of the chapter in question, and neither of which provides any theoretical or empirical justification for a value as high as that which the IPCC adopted." [our emphasis]

Another eye-opener is his explanation of how the believers' climate models are verified:

"Since we cannot measure any individual forcing directly in the atmosphere, the models draw upon results of laboratory experiments in passing sunlight through chambers in which atmospheric constituents are artificially varied," writes Monckton. "Such experiments are, however, of limited value when translated into the real atmosphere, where radiative transfers and non-radiative transports (convection and evaporation up, advection along, subsidence and precipitation down), as well as altitudinal and latitudinal asymmetries, greatly complicate the picture."

In other words, an unproven hypothesis is fed into a computer (so far so good), but it can only be verified against experiments that have no resemblance to the chaotic system of the Earth's climate. It is not hard to see how the scientists could produce an immaculate "model" that's theoretically perfect in every respect (all the equations balance, and it may even be programmed to offer perfect "hind-casting"), but which has no practical predictive value at all. It's safe from the rude intrusion of empirical evidence drawn from atmospheric observation.

The great British-born physicist Freeman Dyson offered an impertinent dose of reality which illustrates the dangers of relying on theory for both your hypothesis and the evidence you need to support it. Since 8 per cent of atmospheric CO2 is absorbed by the planet's biomass every year, notes Dyson (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21494), the average lifespan of a carbon molecule in the atmosphere is about 12 years. His observation leaves the "climate scientists" models as immaculate as they were before, but suggests a very different course of policy action. It suggests our stewardship of land should be at the forefront of CO2 mitigation strategies. That's not something we hear from politicians, pressure groups and, yes ... climate scientists.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: achillwind; agw; aps; blacklist; censorship; climatechange; environment; globalwarming; globalwarmingscare; indoctrination; junkscience; physicists; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; pseudoscience; starkravingsocialism; thoughtcrime
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21 posted on 07/21/2008 10:16:41 AM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: BufordP

“A chill wind” blows in the man made global climate change movement.


22 posted on 07/21/2008 10:18:26 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: Admin Moderator
A story posted just one hour ago at The Register doesn't rate "Breaking News"?

http://news.google.com/news?q=Monckton&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n

23 posted on 07/21/2008 10:20:17 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: xcamel

SILENCE, I KILL YOU!!!

24 posted on 07/21/2008 10:21:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: BufordP
The doges have spoken.
25 posted on 07/21/2008 10:22:11 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: Matchett-PI

I advocate the revival of public horse-whipping for those ‘scientists’ parroting the political line of their financing patrons, whether Gubmint or NGO.

While no one seriously expects much better of the politicians and place-holders, these ‘scientists’ have betrayed the public trust in a profound manner, and deserve condign treatment.


26 posted on 07/21/2008 10:22:15 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: BufordP

read later


27 posted on 07/21/2008 10:24:50 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: BufordP
I put very little credibility in any science predictions or findings (past or present). History has shown that science has been wrong more than it has been correct with such predictions. Furthermore, it is hard to believe anything science predicts when the organizations like the one cited in this article are corrupt and scientists are not stepping forward to stop or correct the corruption.
28 posted on 07/21/2008 10:26:05 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: headsonpikes

Inquisitions!


29 posted on 07/21/2008 10:26:54 AM PDT by polymuser (Taxpayers voting for Obama are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: BufordP

Looks like APS stomped on the flaming bag.


30 posted on 07/21/2008 10:27:52 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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To: BufordP; All

This is Stalinist restriction of free speech.

The Marxist Democrats and the liberal mainstream Marxist media have been lying through their teeth. There is no global warming because the world is cooling rapidly proof: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/06/the-sunspot-mys.html . That’s why the evil plotting media has been changing “global warming” to “climate change”.

Climate scientists: it’s time to move on and recognize that humans are a small, very small, factor in climate change, and since the planet is cooling, it’s crazy to worry about putting CO2 into the air because it might warm things up.

“They have observed a longer-than-normal period of solar inactivity. In the past, they observed that the sun once went 50 years without producing sunspots. That period coincided with a little ice age on Earth that lasted from 1650 to 1700. Coincidence? Some scientists say it was, but many worry that it wasn’t.

Geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the US Solar and Heliospheric Observatory also show that there are currently no spots on the sun. He also noted that the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.

“This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930,” Dr Chapman noted in The Australian recently.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/06/the-sunspot-mys.html


31 posted on 07/21/2008 10:31:15 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Socialism will destroy a country economically. why dems & Mccain for Socialism?)
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To: polymuser

Expect a visit shortly from the Obama Jugend greenshirts and a trip to the hope/change reeducation camp.


32 posted on 07/21/2008 10:32:30 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer ("Peace in our time, baby!" - Neville Hussein Obama)
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To: bmwcyle

SILENCE, I KILL YOU!!!

LMAO! I loved that bit, Achmed (spelled A, c, phlem) the Dead Terrorist.


33 posted on 07/21/2008 10:35:38 AM PDT by upier ("Usted no es agradable en America" "Ahora deporte Illegals")
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To: BufordP

When the global warming hoax is finally exposed, Algore will still have his millions and university scientists will have already spent their taxpayer supported grant money. The only question is what will their next hoax be to transfer wealth and limit individual freedoms.


34 posted on 07/21/2008 10:46:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: BufordP
Who cares about CO2? It's good for plants. Make more CO2.

The primary evidence that CO2 and the greenhouse effect have anything to do with raising global temperature is missing entirely. It isn't there.

No Smoking Hot Spot (The Australian)

This is a short and easily understandable article showing the plain truth. The hinge pin that links global temperature to the greenhouse effect is missing. It is easily measurable and hundreds of probes have done so.

35 posted on 07/21/2008 10:47:13 AM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

Anyone check the ‘hole’ in the ozone layer? It’s almost gone.

I have often wondered about that myself - that used to be the headline story. Has anyone observed how they now call it “climate change” opposed to warming. Makes for use both ways and since when is the weather ever been or will be static?


36 posted on 07/21/2008 10:49:15 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (I'm trying to think, but nothing happens)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The only question is what will their next hoax be to transfer wealth and limit individual freedoms.

Already been happening. Long time.

37 posted on 07/21/2008 10:50:23 AM PDT by Lady Jag ( I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: polymuser

“Inquisitions!”

Comfy Chairs!


38 posted on 07/21/2008 10:51:03 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
To argue otherwise, one must prove a physical mechanism that gives a reasonable alternative cause of warming.

That sounds like a legal debate but it sure as heck isn't science. There is no need to prove any cause of warming, which is dubious now anyway, when you can simply show that the primary evidence for warming by a greenhouse effect doesn't exist. See post #35.

39 posted on 07/21/2008 10:53:13 AM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: BufordP; Oldeconomybuyer

CHILDREN OF THE CORN


40 posted on 07/21/2008 10:54:15 AM PDT by Lady Jag ( I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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