Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

- Some say Golden Gate suicide barriers would mar an icon, and people would find another way to end their lives. But families of suicides say they would save lives.
1 posted on 07/21/2008 7:50:21 AM PDT by SmithL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last
To: SmithL

So much for “The Right to Choose” what we can do with our bodies.


2 posted on 07/21/2008 7:52:01 AM PDT by AU72
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

“We can’t leave a 4-foot rail on a 220-foot drop available to vulnerable people who are in pain and having a bad day or a bad week or a bad month,” said David Hull, a San Francisco librarian.”

The testosterone just oozes from this guy’s every pore....


3 posted on 07/21/2008 7:53:14 AM PDT by EyeGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

Well, if barriers are built for the GG Bridge, won’t folks try to jump off the Oakland Bridge instead? Or does that one already have barriers?

You know, I could swear that, years ago, I read a story about a study of suicides off of the Brooklyn Bridge. As I recollect, the study reported that most people jumped from the side with the view of Manhattan(north up the East River).

Isn’t that odd?


4 posted on 07/21/2008 7:55:14 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

So Hull is all the sudden an expert after his daughters death.......okie dokie then. If ya put up a no climb screen then someone set on killing themselves brings a ladder.....

Do more for SF’s safety if ya let the city council and their idiot mayor jump off that bridge.


6 posted on 07/21/2008 7:55:25 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL
The big problem with this is that adding a fence will change the aerodynamic properties of the bridge, and it has to contend with gale-force winds.

Tacoma Narrows Newsreel

Color Footage of Tacoma Narrows

7 posted on 07/21/2008 7:58:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL
The 23-year-old college graduate surfed suicide Web sites, bought a plane ticket for California

If someone is so determined to end her life, what good will a four foot tall barrier do? Maybe if her family was a little concerned why she was suicidal instead of passing the buck to make it a political issue of building a barrier, she would still be around and in therapy.

8 posted on 07/21/2008 7:59:09 AM PDT by mnehring
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL
He rejected the idea that people thinking of killing themselves will find a way, no matter what. He believes research supports the view that many suicides are impulsive and, thus, preventable

Huh? She all of a sudden got an "impulse" to do extensive research, buy a plane ticket to San Francisco, and hurl herself off the bridge?

It's a shame, but I think that woman was truly determined to commit suicide, and I doubt you can blame the bridge.
9 posted on 07/21/2008 7:59:11 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL
May I suggest that the whole damn government of San Fransicko along with Nancy Pelosie, Hairy Reid, The Governator and the liberal state legislature of Kalifornia take a dive before installing any kind of restraints.

May I suggest this, may I?

11 posted on 07/21/2008 8:00:33 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

That seems pretty fixated for someone to fly thousands of miles from London to San Francisco to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge.


13 posted on 07/21/2008 8:01:14 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

People don’t kill themselves, bridges do. Time to outlaw ‘em


15 posted on 07/21/2008 8:01:35 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

Just wondering,....is it possible to actually survive the jump from that height?

The old cliche’ is that water is as hard as concrete from that height, but is it if you assumed a cannonball position of if you actually dove into the water in a perfect perpendicular and knife edge dive?

And forgive me if this is a stupid question, but could someone wise me up about the physics of such a thing. Thanks.


16 posted on 07/21/2008 8:02:24 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

The fact that this low rail is available to all is a powerful symbol that we are responsible for ourselves and it is not the job of the state to mother us from cradle to grave.

The rail should be high enough to prevent accidental falls, and no higher.


19 posted on 07/21/2008 8:04:21 AM PDT by gridlock (Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons. .. FREE LAZAMATAZ!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

This is easy. Electrify it. Then suicidal folks can just add one more thing to their unending list of failures & inadequacies, jump back in their car, and go see a counselor in the morning.


21 posted on 07/21/2008 8:04:52 AM PDT by RFEngineer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

I’ve traversed the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in Tampa many times but never paid attention to what measures,if any,the bridge contains to prevent suicides.


30 posted on 07/21/2008 8:12:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL
It's sad that a girl would go all that way to kill herself. Seems silly to do all that planning and spend that money, when she could have simply gassed herself in her flat.
31 posted on 07/21/2008 8:14:34 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

I’d be more concerned about preventing suicide bombers from exploding a truck bomb at a critical points on the bridge and bringing it down.


36 posted on 07/21/2008 8:19:46 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

Keep those barriers off.

If people want to end it all, let them.


38 posted on 07/21/2008 8:23:01 AM PDT by Ben Reyes (Exodus 21:22-25 --- it's a child, not a choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

the coronado bridge in san diego has signs with suicide hotline information. when i drove across both the golden gate and the bay bridge a few days ago, i was surprised to see no signs.

seems to me that the golden gate bridge is attractive to potential jumpers because it is so iconic. make it impossible to jump, and i bet 80% of the poor potential jumpers make no other suicide attempts.


40 posted on 07/21/2008 8:27:24 AM PDT by clio morrel (smoking is healthier than fascism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL
One thing that one must acknowledge is that with all the places where can commit suicide and with all the methods available jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge is a fairly...narcissistic...way to do it.Kinda like jumping from the Observation Deck of the WTC...although the one time I was there I think they had fencing,etc to prevent it.
41 posted on 07/21/2008 8:27:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: SmithL

In my opinion, the reason somebody might want to jump off this bridge in particular is to make a statement. If this young woman just killed herself in a London flat, it’d probably go by un-noticed by anyone. Here, she gets to make a ‘statement’ that’ll be guaranteed to make the news. Some people are just looking for a way to say “Hey! Notice me!”. Problem is...with this method, they aren’t around to realize that anyone actually noticed.

I also think that, at least in this case, the young woman traveled all that way so that, possibly while on the way at some point, someone might actually try to stop her. Even for the deeply depressed and suicidal person, there is still a desire to want to live. A lot of suicidal people are looking for an excuse, a reason...ANY reason...not to go through with it.

As for some of the replies on this thread, it does sadden me that some here have the same attitude as Ebenezer Scrooge: “If they would rather die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”


42 posted on 07/21/2008 8:27:38 AM PDT by hoagy62 (No surrender, no retreat, no quarter, no compromise...no kidding!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson