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NYC Councilman Following the Communist Red Flag (Falung Gong vs. Democrats)
epoch times ^ | Jul 14, 2008 | Zhang Haishan, He Hanming and Ji Da

Posted on 07/20/2008 7:51:42 PM PDT by flushing_kenny

The best thing about democracy is that elected officials are expected to care about voters’ wellbeing and to be willing to provide help when voters are in need. But New York City Councilperson John Liu Democrat did not seem to care when he shut out some of his constituents who came to complain about attacks and death threats from pro-communist mobs that occurred in Liu’s district...
Falun Gong practitioners contacted Liu shortly after the attacks started, only to be rebuffed again and again. Meanwhile, they found Liu’s door was wide open to their attackers. Besides meeting with the attackers, Liu also encouraged attackers, who had their images published in The Epoch Times, to complain about the publication...

(Excerpt) Read more at en.epochtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: china; communist; democrats; falung; infiltration
Its a slight bit of a hit piece, but there appears to be something to this story. I've run up against the Communists in Flushing before, but the Falung Gong is not only doing that, but getting interference from our NY politicians. Falung Gong even took articles from the past few weeks and put out a paper accusing John Liu and State Assemblyman Ellen Young of selling their soul to China. Partly believable (at least Ellen).
The Chinese version is pretty harsh, but there is also this from some Taiwanese Recall attempt for 2 Flushing politicians
For history lessons: Flushing NY (near Shea Stadium, go Mets!) is the birthplace of religious freedom in America.
1 posted on 07/20/2008 7:51:43 PM PDT by flushing_kenny
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To: flushing_kenny

The falun gong is a very dangerous sect. They lie, exagerate and do everything in their power to gain public sympathy. I don’t believe much of anything they claim.


2 posted on 07/20/2008 8:17:15 PM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: CometBaby

I did use the term “hit piece” and it reads as such. The Chinese version is fully put out as a small newspaper and combines what appears to be over a dozen articles from the past couple of months.
Most politicians out here hold them at arms lengths, just like they do the Scientologists and other fringe groups. Unfortunately, John Liu does take a lot of donations from the Chinese and has always been very quick to pop up at any Chinese embassy sponsored event and very slow to show up at Taiwanese events (he was born in Taiwan).
There is no question that the Chinese Embassy here is devoting considerable resources to tracking and interfering with dissidents on American soil. I visited Flushing just a couple of weeks ago, and the Commies had agitators posted outside the Falung Gong area; guys talking shit about Falung Gong and extolling the virtues of the Chinese regime. I read and speak Chinese and its gotten much worse.

Glad I moved out of Flushing.


3 posted on 07/20/2008 8:39:23 PM PDT by flushing_kenny (870 square feet of living space and proud of it)
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To: CometBaby

Have you read about the incident in Flushing? Please provide proof that they lie.....


4 posted on 07/20/2008 9:50:33 PM PDT by color_tear
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To: flushing_kenny
Reminds me of when I lived in Seattle, and the PRC nationalists would get into arguments with the FG when the latter would hold their rallies just south of Pike Place Market.

I used to spend alot of time in Flushing, and thought I knew NYC very well. I had NO idea that FG was so active in said neighborhood. I've never seen them in Sunset Park (8th Avenue) either.

5 posted on 07/20/2008 9:56:18 PM PDT by Clemenza ("You know, it's one thing about intellectuals. They prove that you can be absolutely brilliant and h)
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To: neverdem; Cacique

Ping!


6 posted on 07/20/2008 9:56:42 PM PDT by Clemenza ("You know, it's one thing about intellectuals. They prove that you can be absolutely brilliant and h)
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To: Clemenza; flushing_kenny

John Liu doesn’t smell good.


7 posted on 07/20/2008 11:07:43 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Clemenza

The FG are in Sunset Park as well. They have the epoch times in those free dispensers all along 8th. On the weekends they set up tables in front of Hong Kong Supermarket and hand out literature. Sometimes they approach a guilo like me and try to convince me how evil the PRC regime is. I take it in one ear and out the other. They remind me quite a lot of the other sect in sunset park, the Jehova’s witnesses, they must have studied their M.O..


8 posted on 07/21/2008 2:51:38 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: color_tear
Have you read about the incident in Flushing? Please provide proof that they lie...

Yes I have read about the indicident in Flushing. I really don't care what the FG *say* or *claim*. Unfortunately for me, I was in Hong Kong when they had a huge protest there at People's Park. Everything they do is well organized and scripted.

They get tossed in jail and then they all cry the same story. Just like the Prisoners at Gitmo all have the same story about being tortured and acting pitiful.

I saw how they were causing trouble with my own eyes. We got the heck out of there. It was a riot waiting to happen.

Have you been to a Falun Gong protest in Hong Kong?

9 posted on 07/24/2008 9:02:47 PM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: Cacique
try to convince me how evil the PRC regime is

You need convincing that the PRC regime is evil?

If that's true, you're on the wrong forum.

L

10 posted on 07/24/2008 9:11:00 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: CometBaby
And of course the ChiComs are well known for their transparent honesty....

L

11 posted on 07/24/2008 9:11:49 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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And of course the ChiComs are well known for their transparent honesty....

Where did that come from? I spoke about how dangerous the Falun Gong was, and now you attempt to portray that .. as a defense of the Chinese leadership??? Speaking about how dangerous that cult is, is by no means an endorsement of the Chinese government. Sheesh.

I have been to China many times and for extended periods. I have no illusions about how bad the ChiComs are .. or how bad the Falun Gong is.

I strongly recommend you educate yourself about the Falun Gong before you start defending them.

12 posted on 07/25/2008 5:20:05 PM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: CometBaby
I strongly recommend you educate yourself about the Falun Gong

How many millions of people have the Falun Gong murdered?

Get back to me when that number tops 10 million. Then they'll be approximately 1/3 as dangerous as the ChiCom government.

Until then, they're a harmless bunch of kooks as far as I'm concerned.

"Oh look...the scary Chinese people are handing out LEAFLETS!!!" Run away...run away...

Anyone who gives the ChiComs trouble is ok in my book.

L

13 posted on 07/25/2008 5:58:31 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: CometBaby

I’ve seen many in Dallas area, where I live. I may disagree with their practice but in USA they have every right to protest and commies have no right to stop them in USA.
They also have a very large presence in Taiwan.
Maybe in Hong Kong is different, because HK is controlled by commies now.


14 posted on 07/29/2008 11:31:06 AM PDT by color_tear
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To: Lurker
How many millions of people have the Falun Gong murdered? Until then, they're a harmless bunch of kooks as far as I'm concerned.

"Harmless?" They encourage their followers to set themselves on fire to protest the gov't. Thousands have commited suicide in order to rise up to heaven in accordance with the teachings. "Harmless?" Thousands die from curable illness because they are told to refuse medical treatment .. Li Hongzhi can heal them. They are told they have to discard love in order to upgrade themselves. They tear families apart.

They are hardly "Harmless?" They are a full blown dangerous cult with millions of followers. You will be happy to hear this "Harmless?" cult is coming to America.

15 posted on 07/30/2008 2:19:30 AM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: CometBaby
They encourage their followers to set themselves on fire to protest the gov't.

Darwin in action.

Thousands have commited suicide in order to rise up to heaven in accordance with the teachings.

See above.

Thousands die from curable illness because they are told to refuse medical treatment ..

At the risk of becoming boring, see response 1.

They are told they have to discard love in order to upgrade themselves. They tear families apart.

Persons are free to love or not love as they chose. It's not the business of the Government, most especially not the business of the Chi-Com government.

They tear families apart.

Persons do have the right of Free Association you know. Maybe their families are idiots. In any event, it's none of your business.

L

16 posted on 07/30/2008 6:08:39 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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