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Why McCain Must Win
canadafreepress.com ^ | 07/19/08 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 07/19/2008 6:29:13 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3

President McCain in 2000 I must be one of the few conservative writers in cyberspace who never feared a McCain presidency. When Senator McCain looked like he might win the Republican nomination in 2000, I asked what, exactly, my friends were so worried about. McCain was honest, like Bush, while Clinton and Gore were steeped in moral slipperiness. McCain was pro-life, like Bush, while Clinton and Gore were pro-abortion. McCain, like Bush, supported a strong military, while Clinton famously “loathed” the military and Gore followed him like a trained poodle. McCain’s ACU (American Conservative Union) voting record is conservative and was even more conservative in 2000. Who did I favor for the nomination in 2000? Bush, because I liked him more and I thought he would win, but was I afraid of a McCain presidency? No, I was afraid that the nation could not survive a third Clinton term. Has anything happened in the last eight years to change my mind? Not, not really. September 11, 2001 has driven all politics since then, even energy (remember how recently gasoline was cheap?) and while I can conceive of McCain handling the war on terror differently, in some ways, than Bush, I cannot see either man being particularly better than the other. Although we are sometimes loath to admit it, McCain appeared more prescience than Bush on Iraq: McCain supported the Surge, asked for the Surge when Bush was reluctant, and McCain was dead right. The Left would have vilified President McCain just as it vilified President Bush and for the same reasons: It wants America to lose all its wars.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; conservatives; democrats; demotivation; despair; election; electionpresident; fear; foreignpolicy; issues; mccain; mccaindemocrat; mccainlist; mccaintruthfile; obama; obamacans; obamacons; rino; rinoalert; rinomadness; war; zombierino
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To: Checkers

You’re welcome!


341 posted on 07/20/2008 2:22:53 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Squantos; Eagle Eye; calcowgirl
Baldwin's home page.
342 posted on 07/20/2008 2:28:00 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Fred Thompson dropped out before I could vote for him in the FL primary. I held my nose and voted for Romney.

I will hold my nose once again in November.

I will do it because I'm not confident our Constitutional republic can survive four years of radical, amoral Leftists running all three branches of government.

343 posted on 07/20/2008 2:50:11 PM PDT by Jacquerie (McCain will kick, not kiss the a$$ of Islam.)
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To: calcowgirl

I’d say obama does since he very well could have a 60 proof Senate on his side.

You really don’t know what that means do you?


344 posted on 07/20/2008 3:19:40 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

So basically FR has an ‘obama’s not such a bad choice’ crowd now.

Wow!!!! I’m starting to think he has more fans here than KOS or DU.


345 posted on 07/20/2008 3:24:28 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles
I’d say obama does since he very well could have a 60 proof Senate on his side.

And McCain would have the same liberal Senate who agree with his liberal views.

I'll give ya another try: Will there be fiercer opposition to Amnesty or Global Warming regulation under a McCain presidency or an Obama presidency?

You really don’t know what that means do you?

Yeah--McCain has a lot of support to pass his liberal policies, as does Obama.

346 posted on 07/20/2008 3:25:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

You’re like Al Qaeda saying Hamas are infidels, you’re such an extremist on this.

If you think McCain’s anywhere NEAR obama’s liberalism you’re just wrong. There’s NO evidence of it!


347 posted on 07/20/2008 3:27:18 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles

Okay, whatever dude.


348 posted on 07/20/2008 3:41:33 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: indylindy

Funny, that’s the exact same response and attitude the perot voters that gave us clinton had!


349 posted on 07/20/2008 3:43:22 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles
You’re like Al Qaeda saying Hamas are infidels, you’re such an extremist on this.

Ahhh... personal attacks and insults in lieu of answering a question or having a mature discussion. The favorite tactic of liberals and con men.

If you think McCain’s anywhere NEAR obama’s liberalism you’re just wrong. There’s NO evidence of it!

Apparently you failed to read my posts. I never said any such thing.

350 posted on 07/20/2008 3:44:41 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Your argument appears to be that obama would have a harder time getting liberal judges and policies through a democrat congress than McCain would.

I can’t take that suggestion as anything other than a joke, so it’s really hard to ‘debate’ it.


351 posted on 07/20/2008 3:47:25 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles
Your argument appears to be that obama would have a harder time getting liberal judges and policies through a democrat congress than McCain would.

Try again. I mentioned nothing about judges. Go back and try again.

I can’t take that suggestion as anything other than a joke, so it’s really hard to ‘debate’ it.

Yep... another liberal tactic. Assign a fabricated position to another then call it a joke. Just try answering a questgion directly and not putting words in other people's mouths. You might find it a refreshing change from liberal tactics.

352 posted on 07/20/2008 3:55:28 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Who’s more liberal, the one supporting obama or McCain in this election?

If you can’t figure that out, there’s just no help for you, or need to discuss the issue.


353 posted on 07/20/2008 3:58:11 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles
Who’s more liberal, the one supporting obama or McCain in this election?

What are you talking about? Are you asking who is more liberal between you and I?
That really wasn't the discussion, nor have you answered the rather simple question I asked.

If you can’t figure that out, there’s just no help for you, or need to discuss the issue.

Can you discuss subjects without launching personal attacks, please?

If you continue to try to frame all issues as two-dimensional, you'll be missing a lot in life.

354 posted on 07/20/2008 4:05:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

The answer to your question is that obama will have an easier time getting things passed.

That’s what you wanted to know right?


355 posted on 07/20/2008 4:08:04 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: calcowgirl
Who’s more liberal, the one supporting obama or McCain in this election?

Now there's a quandary! Which sort of poop stinks worse? Chicken poop, or turkey poop? We've got both here on the farm, and they're both very STINKY! Along those same lines, who's the least leftward leaning candidate? Obama or McCain? Which stinks less? Or as it has been so aptly put here lately, which is the lesser of two evils?

This entire issue is referenced incorrectly. Whereas we should be debating which candidate is the most conservative, we're mired with idiots who argue that one is less liberal than another. Instead of debating the merits of the best of the best, we're infiltrated by people who vainly attempt to convince us to support the best of the worst

The situation is entirely referenced to the candidates being liberal. I know that you understand this. I'm just putting here for others who might not realize it. :-)

It's a very tough situation. I empathize with those who are too fearful to do anything other than support the GOP, even though it frustrates me to no end. I still understand their fear. What I do NOT understand is that they simply don't believe us when we tell them that their worst fears will be realized simply because we will vote on principle KNOWING that the outcome will most likely inadvertently usher in a democratic President. They're motivated by fear, but they choose to believe the GOP, and not an entire former core support base who is trying to warn them of the coming train wreck.

It's baffling really, and rather reminds me of a condition likened to selective mental retardation, if such a condition could exist.
356 posted on 07/20/2008 4:17:55 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: MartinStyles
The answer to your question is that obama will have an easier time getting things passed. That’s what you wanted to know right?

Here was the question:

Will there be fiercer opposition to Amnesty or Global Warming regulation under a McCain presidency or an Obama presidency?

So, you think that opposition to Amnesty and Global Warming regulation will be more fierce against McCain?

(shaking head).... we disagree

357 posted on 07/20/2008 4:18:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: hiredhand
Whereas we should be debating which candidate is the most conservative...

Actually, since neither are conservative and both embrace many of the same liberal policies, I've widdled the decision down to the following:

Which candidate will be able to do the most damage by advancing the liberal agenda?
As long as all of these McCain-bots will continue to act as salesmen and apologists for John-boy's liberal policies and are unwilling to fight against him, I'm beginning to believe that McCain will be able to accomplish more (for the LEFT) than Obama who will be fought at every level.

I'm undecided as yet, but it's sure looking like Schwarzenegger's playbook, to a tee (who has done more for the liberal agenda than any democrat could have dreamed of).

Of course, McCain is trailing by 24 points in California so my vote won't make much diff, anyway.

358 posted on 07/20/2008 4:24:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: hiredhand
It's baffling really...

I always wondered how tyrants like HItler could rise to power. I think I understand now. Some folks aren't willing to "just say NO."

359 posted on 07/20/2008 4:27:24 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
"I'm beginning to believe that McCain will be able to accomplish more (for the LEFT) than Obama who will be fought at every level. "

You go girl. You nailed it.

360 posted on 07/20/2008 4:27:51 PM PDT by Radix (Think it is bad now? Wait until you have to press "2" for English!)
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