Posted on 07/19/2008 9:37:39 AM PDT by vietvet67
"Well, I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president." That was retired Gen. Wesley Clark's condescending assessment of John McCain's military service. Clark's words have great weight because he was speaking as a key political/military advisor to Barack Obama.
If Gen. Clark had been talking about me, his remarks might be true. After all, I rode in a fighter plane and got shot down over North Vietnam. In no way do Clark's words apply to McCain. I know, because I was a firsthand witness to his singular leadership and courage. In the years I spent as a POW in North Vietnam, I saw McCain inspire and lead under trying circumstances that Gen. Clark has not the imagination to understand.
As for the role of a president, I was fortunate enough to serve as a domestic policy advisor to President Ronald Reagan. Seeing him in action, and seeing John McCain in action, I know they are equals in character, ability and political courage.
I met John McCain in a POW camp in Vietnam. He told me his father and grandfather read history every evening. Since our release, I have done the same. From my study of history I know what we need in a leader.
Great leaders have an undefinable quality: Call it charisma. Young Winston Churchill once wrote to his mother, "We are all worms, but I am a glowworm." And so it proved. John McCain, too, is a "glowworm." You cannot help but notice him.
Gen. George C. Marshall, Army chief of staff during World War II, said, "The first thing a leader needs is courage." Churchill had courage. As a cavalry officer in the British army, Churchill left garrison duty to go where the action was. During his army career he was several times under hostile fire and conducted two daring and famous rescues. The second rescue came when he was a war correspondent covering the Boer War in 1899. It led to his capture as a prisoner of war. He escaped and after several adventures reached safety in Portuguese Mozambique. The story made him a world-wide hero and helped get him elected to Parliament.
When he became Prime Minister in World War II, all looked bleak. After the surrender of France there were some who thought that Britain could not carry on alone and should negotiate a peace with Hitler. But Churchill would not quit. He fought on until, as he said, "In God's good time, the new world comes to the rescue of the old."
McCain, like Churchill, has courage. McCain, like Churchill, stood strong when all looked bleak. My friend, Col. Jack Van Loan, was in a cell from which he could see several senior Communist officers, along with an interpreter and men with a stretcher, enter McCain's cell. He knew that John was immobilized by his wounds. He heard them offer McCain early release and heard John answer that he would go home when we all go home.
He heard the voices of the officers rising until they were shouting angrily at McCain and threatening him. This was followed by a stream of obscenities from McCain and the rapid exit of the senior officers. John told them never again to try to get him to accept early release. He was defiant at a time that he was physically helpless, unable even to crawl on his own.
In the spring of 1971, I personally witnessed John McCain's courage. After the attempted rescue of POWs at the camp at Son Tay, in November of 1970, almost all Americans were moved to Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi, the infamous "Hanoi Hilton." The communists felt so threatened by the raid that, for the first time, they concentrated us in large cells, with as many as 60 men to a cell.
One of the first things we did was to institute regular religious services in our cells. On Jan. 1, 1971, we were told that all religious activity was forbidden. This led to a long series of increasingly hostile confrontations that someone has labeled "the Church Riots." I was in a cell next to McCain's. In early March, the four senior men in his cell were removed and for some time we lost contact with them. Then the four senior men in my cell were removed, and we lost contact with them, also. The confrontations rapidly escalated. On the evening of March 18 there was a confrontation that almost descended to guards shooting mutinous POWs. The communists were now afraid of losing control.
My recollection is that John McCain was now the senior man in his cell. In any case, I know that he was deeply involved with what followed. The senior men in our two cells kept us under tight control, but carefully staged demonstrations of our anger over the religious ban and the removal of our cell mates. On March 19, St. Joseph's Day, the day after the dangerous confrontation, I remember the men in McCain's room singing, at the top of their lungs, first "the Battle Hymn of the Republic," then "Onward Christian Soldiers." This was not merely courage, but exquisite leadership to get men to show open defiance when it was clear that there would be retaliation. The only question was in what form and how harsh that retaliation would be. Remember that all of these men had been tortured and knew to what lengths the enemy was willing to go to maintain control.
Courage alone, however, is not sufficient. A great leader also needs greatness of spirit. Again, I turn to Churchill, who never held a grudge and was prepared to be gracious and magnanimous toward a defeated foe. When McCain led church services, he prayed for the enemy who had tortured him. I have observed Ronald Reagan in the White House and I have observed McCain in the Hanoi Hilton. I have seen that McCain, like Churchill, like Reagan, has courage, prudence, and magnanimity. That is why he is qualified to be president, even if he hadn't ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down.
James H. Warner is a retired attorney. He was a policy advisor to President Ronald Reagan from 1985 until 1989. He was a Marine officer in Vietnam and was held as a POW, in North Vietnam, for five and a half years.
What does this have to do with things now? His service is laudable, his stance as a candidate kind of spoils things.
Oh, and yes, I know the rotten alternative, I just don’t like either rotten candidate. Sad that the only thing people that look for something to applaud McCain for, have to go back to the Vietnam years. His performance in Congress just stinks.
What???
We just had a story 2 days ago that put McCain's dad in the same category as Obama’s “father” as having deserted his family.
We were lied to, again?
Did you read the article?
This is a straw man argument. Who besides his critics has ever claimed that McCain's POW experiences is what he's relying on for qualification?
I didn't know you were monitoring Free Republic Wesley Clark!
Your stance is completely logical!
Therefore expect flack from the illogical McCain haters!
I challenge you to show me ANYBODY, Republican, Democrat or Independent who claims McCain’s POW background should be the MAIN reason reason to vote for him as President.
Give me one example. One.
Figures that Osama would have a guy who bombs innocent Serb women and children pushing carts with all their wordly possesions on them as they were fleeing their homes, also being bombed by Clark. This "hero" qualifies Obama to be CIC.
(indy; this post is not aimed at you FRiend, it’s aimed at all the McVainiacs on this thread)
All the fear mongering on the Planet won’t convince me other wise. McCain’s record speaks for itself, all 25 years of it.
His service in Vietnam has very little to do with the path he chose after, from his cruel treatment of his first wife, to his continued defiance of Conservative Principles.
Glorify him all you want to ease your conscience, but that will not change what he will do to this country and has proclaimed to do. I refuse to buy into what ever Koolaid they (The GOP) are serving.
Agreed...he is DEFINATELY qualified...I may not agree with him 100%, but that does not mean I don’t agree with most of what he has to say. I would rather have an honest, courageous man as our president than someone with charisma but no substance. Charsima is the great drug the democrats love to parade around...Think Kennedy, Clinton, and now Obama...
Maybe so, but like them he has stones, and he understands evil. Not bad qualities for a Commander in Chief.
see my tagline.
There is one thing you should never do and that is to impugn a POW. McCain is a RhinoCrat but his service was above and beyond the call of duty. So yes, he has paid his dues for the Presidency.
When he won NH, I asked my buddy why he voted for him. He said, anybody who could withstand 5 yrs in a Vietnamese prison earned my vote. You can’t argue that.
Pray for W and Our Troops
A stark contrast to what John Kerry’s fellow soldiers had to say about him.
Clinton argues that his COWARDNESS is a virtue? HAHAHA! Well, maybe, but when you add that cowardneess to your traitorous behavior, sneaking away on your pilgramage to the shrine of your god, Stalin, adopting the "religion" of ours and the free worlds enemies,"communism" and you lifetime of 'work' to destroy our nations freedom and sovereignty in order to one day establish our enemies "religion" to lord over the people of this nation, directed by a consortium of unelected Marxist elitists from abroad.
"Traitorous coward" is not a virtue.
[His service to his nation is extremely laudable.
His imprisonment in Viet Nam is not enough of a reason for him to be President.]
When your other option is Barack Hussein it most certainly is.
Let’s see, FLYING a jet fighter, getting shot down by Commie scum, and spending over 5 years in a prison camp does not qualify one to be president, but hanging around with crooks and domestic terrorists, and being a southside Chitown poverty pimp does! I am missing something here, or are Weaselie’s comments those of a partisan political hack or a fool?
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