McCain Adviser, Phil Gramm, Leaves Campaign

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[angkor]

>>>>>Getting kind of crowded under the buses of both candidate.<<<<<

I’m reading a history of the Adams/Jefferson election of 1800 right now.

In addition to a slew of dirty tricks and betrayals on both sides, looks like there was little room left under the horsecart by the time the election came around.

[John D]

Let’s hope you never become disabled and, by your definition, “lazy”

Do not worry, I will always work. I, nor many other true Americans will sit around and complain about how the gov't is not doing enough to help me. It is only the whiners and liberals who do that.
While my investments may not be doing as well as I would like at this very moment, they will in the long run come along, and right now I am buying at a bargain rate.
Go along with the other democrats and complain that you are not getting your share of the pie. In the mean time, I, along with other Americans will make their own pie.

[rottndog]

Whining applies here. Too many people are whining. They have gotten the results they voted for.

Heating oil too expensive??? Too bad—this is a result of the refusal to utilize our own domestic resources and ensure that an adequate supply of oil increases with the increase in the population.

Take home pay value dropping??? Too bad—this is the result of decades of runaway government social spending, which is the result of too many whiners with their hands out demanding the government take care of them. The government prints more money to cover its’ spending, the value of the dollar drops.

Again, the people are getting what they have asked and voted for. They are whiners. Phil Gramm was right....just not politically correct.

[wardaddy]

I don’t really see this as a conspiracy.

I benefit too from lower interst rates.

[mdefranc]

Examine your premises on what belongs to whom; on that topic, how do you differ from Roosevelt, Stalin, and Hitler?

[Big Horn]

To me it is all the same. After 50 years of being head of a household and bought and sold two businesses, the years are all about the same no real good years and no real bad years.

[dirtboy]

Last I checked, a GOP Congress spent thru the roof. So don’t act like the people are to blame. Pubblies like Gramm sold them down the river for their own coin, and then have the gall to say the people are whiners.

[rottndog]

So, you’re saying there aren’t a lot of people who whine about life in America today? There aren’t a lot of people who expect to have their nice little lives handed to them on a silver platter on the backs of the taxpayers via the federal government?

I think that’s what was wrong with the GOP when it ran congress. They left their conservatism behind to pander to whiners.

[Baladas]

The people that elected that Congress ARE to blame for not holding “Pubblies” like Gramm’s feet to the fire.

[ari-freedom]

but that’s the problem. Phil Gramm doesn’t understand supply side monetary policy...

http://www.forbes.com/business/global/2008/0721/013.html

[ari-freedom]

and how can they do that? by voting for democrats? There are 2 choices: a really bad choice and a stupid choice.

[SecAmndmt]

“Unemployment near historic lows? An economy that’s posted positive growth despite spiking energy prices?”

I’m not sure that I believe the government’s CPI, unemployment, or growth statistics.

If our real inflation rate is closer to ~10% (or more), is the economy really growing?

[FredZarguna]

Citation?

[dirtboy]

So, you’re saying there aren’t a lot of people who whine about life in America today? There aren’t a lot of people who expect to have their nice little lives handed to them on a silver platter on the backs of the taxpayers via the federal government?

What I am saying is that weasels like Gramm profited immensely from creating the corrupt system we now have, that led directly to fiascos like Enron and the subprime crisis. They were the ones who undid basic oversight and limitations that would have prevented such. And someone like Gramm really doesn't feel the impact of $4 gas and higher food prices. But the working stiffs do.

I don't begrude for a minute a wealthy person who earned their money through enterprise. But Gramm earned it through political access via his wife. He of all people is in no position to lecture people about whining when his actions led to some of the problems we have today.

[1rudeboy]

Is Phil Gramm even mentioned in that column?

[1rudeboy]

I think the most interesting (and typical) thing about this entire episode is that no one is discussing the veracity of Gramm's comments, gaffes or not. Instead, we are discussing UBS, Enron, Gramm-Rudman, etc.

Mission accomplished. If a Dem political consultant could capture this dynamic and take advantage of it, like Morris perfected his Third Way "triangulation" stuff, or the way Rove developed the technique of attacking an opponent's strongest attributes (instead of weakest), then you'd never see a conservative in the White House again, Republican, Independent, third Party, or from the Planet Zod.

[FreeReign]

The Straight Talk Express couldn’t stand actual straight talk. Shame.

It's more of a shame that this nation of whiners can't handle the truth.

[HAL9000]

Not that I care much for Phil Gramm, but once again, please tell me what he said that wasn’t true?

If said that he could help McCain win the election, that would be untrue. He is politically tone-deaf. McCain can't win the election with a message like "we are becoming a nation of whiners".

[rottndog]

McCain can't win the election with a message like "we are becoming a nation of whiners".

He's not going to win by pandering to whiners, either. How successful is the GOP when it tries to out liberal liberals?

[HAL9000]

He's not going to win by pandering to whiners, either.

A lot of folks are upset that he is pandering to swing voters when he should be pandering to conservatives.