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Woman gives judge earful, lands in jail (Jury Pool Member)
Star-Banner (Ocala, FL) ^ | July 15, 2008 | Suevon Lee

Posted on 07/17/2008 12:56:53 PM PDT by buccaneer81

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To: the_devils_advocate_666

its a beautiful thing, ne?


61 posted on 07/17/2008 1:34:24 PM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, people, is what grinds my gears.)
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To: buccaneer81
Any time a judge puts someone in jail without a trial they are in direct violation of the Constitution. But they do not care about the Constitution.
62 posted on 07/17/2008 1:35:02 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: chaos_5
She was born with the leaky valves and has had 4 heart surgeries. She probably hasn't got long to live.

Muller, who is unemployed, said she was born with a leaky valve in her heart and has had four previous heart surgeries to treat it.

63 posted on 07/17/2008 1:36:00 PM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Once you're in the courtroom, it's too late. They've got you hooked.

Nah, just tell them the police wouldn't have arrested the defendant if they weren't pretty sure he was guilty.

64 posted on 07/17/2008 1:36:24 PM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: LetsRok

In California, it’s only $5/day, IIRC.


65 posted on 07/17/2008 1:37:34 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: PeteB570

Didn’t work for me and I was on the trial for a month! Two weeks of paid JD and managed to squeeze in 40 hours a week of work the other two...


66 posted on 07/17/2008 1:38:08 PM PDT by Axenolith (7-15-08 : Gasoline is an average $0.30/gallon in US 90% silver coinage...)
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To: chesley
The only time I ever served on a jury (I've been called 3 times), it was a murder trial. We let the killer go. Sounded like self-defense to all 12 of us.

How much of a big smile did the prosecutor have on his face when your verdict was read to the Court? ;)
67 posted on 07/17/2008 1:38:33 PM PDT by mkjessup (Fred Phelps? It's HELL on the phone! It's for YOU! They say "COME ON DOWN!!!")
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To: nina0113

or that youre blessed with the ability to spot a guilty man just by looking at him


68 posted on 07/17/2008 1:40:02 PM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, people, is what grinds my gears.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

You’re absolutely right. The poster should not have made the inference that the woman was on ‘the public dole’. The poster should have characterized it properly and stated that the woman “was too selfish and had no respect for her own civic responsibility to be inconvenienced”. The poster might have also launched into how the woman was very willing to avail herself of the rights afforded her by our system of government but was unwilling to be personally invenienced when any of the responsibilities that goes along with those freedoms fell to her.

The woman admits that her medical appointment was just an excuse, she was just mad that it wasn’t a good enough excuse. After letting her self righteous anger overcome her she then made it painfully clear that no one had taught her that with freedoms come responsibility. She then decided that he middle of a court proceeding was the appropriate time to execrcise her right to free speech. As I taught my son early on, he has plenty of freedoms, he just needs to be sure he takes the responsibility for the outcome that goes along with them when chooses to exercise them. She actually had the nerve to act shocked when someone held her accountable for her actions. Thank goodness she wasn’t selected for the jury, her mistaken sense of entitlement with no responsibilty might have led her to make a poor decision which the rest of society would have to pay for.


69 posted on 07/17/2008 1:41:19 PM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: chesley

I served on a petit jury twice here in my county. At the risk of sounding elitist, I will never break the law because the concept of a “jury of your peers” is bogus. I was absolutely stunned at the sheer stupidity of some of the individuals I served with.


70 posted on 07/17/2008 1:41:39 PM PDT by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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To: buccaneer81
“I was very upset that my excuse that I needed to go to the doctor was not as good an excuse as a lie,” she said later

I guess it would depend on whether the need to see the doctor was urgent. I have a feeling it wasn't.

71 posted on 07/17/2008 1:45:03 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: tatsinfla

We do seem to have a higher than normal population of twits that’s for sure. I’m not sure why that is other than the fact that Florida is a popular destination for people looking to escape reality.


72 posted on 07/17/2008 1:45:53 PM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: Notary Sojac

Don’t speak openly about it, just have the two words written down on a business card. Show it to the prosecutor and you are on your way out the door.


73 posted on 07/17/2008 1:47:55 PM PDT by ClayinVA
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To: buccaneer81

Choosing jurors is serious business.

At the trial of my sister’s murderer, a bad one slipped through the selection process. It was an open-and-shut case of first degree premeditated murder, DNA evidence, video of the perp arriving at and leaving the scene of the crime, etc. This juror, who fit the descriptive used by the lady in this story, threatened to hang the jury and got the rest of them to hand down a second-degree conviction. A travesty.

Thank God another adjoining state had already convicted the animal on another first-degree rap and given him life without parole. He’ll rot there until he dies and faces a Judge who doesn’t make mistakes.


74 posted on 07/17/2008 1:49:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Independent Party: The citizen-led campaign to save America - www.selfgovernment.us)
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To: Ron in Acreage
I get out the old fashioned way. Just don’t show up.

Why get out of it? Are you telling us you would be the kind of person you would not want on the jury if you were on trial? If that is what you're telling us, I'd be interested in why. Do you think you aren't smart enough or what?

By the way, if you really did do this, you are very lucky not to have been arrested.

75 posted on 07/17/2008 1:50:40 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: buccaneer81

I don’t understand people’s, esp. conservative’s, desire to get out of juries. It’s part of being in a republic. Yes, I think the “pay” is a waste. But why should juries be composed of people too stupid to get out of jury duty?

IMO, voir dire should be banned and the first 12 people who don’t have a clear conflict of interest with either the judge, prosecutor, defense attorney, or defendents should be picked. No jacking jurors because a lawyer feels that juror won’t vote the way they want to.


76 posted on 07/17/2008 1:50:56 PM PDT by jjm2111 (Are we going to have a Daily Dose of McCain?)
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To: buccaneer81
Fifty years or so ago, the son of an acquaintance of mine was in court for disturbing the peace with his noisy, muffler-less motorcycle. While the judge was admonishing him for his thoughtlessness, the judge passed gas in a window rattling way to which the young man responded “What? No muffler?” I don't know the outcome but the courtroom broke out in gales of laughter.
77 posted on 07/17/2008 1:52:48 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: mkjessup
They were very short of jurors that week, so they didn't release us.

The next day, as I walked up the court house steps to report again, I noticed the prosecutor in front of me talking to another lawyer. The following is an exact quote, as near as I can remember it.

“...they're not supposed to do that. I can tell you one thing. If I wanted to kill someone, I'd crawl a thousand miles on my hands and knees to do it in Etowah County.” (That's in Alabama.)

In other words, he was not at all happy. But he didn't prove to us that it was murder. The only thing we even debated was whether to find him guilty of manslaughter (there wasn't any doubt that he had done it, he admitted it). We didn't think a man should be punished for defending his family. Which is what he had done.

Stabbed the guy in the neck, and he bled out.

78 posted on 07/17/2008 1:53:29 PM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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To: buccaneer81

Jury duty is our right and our duty in a nation of laws. Just do it.


79 posted on 07/17/2008 1:54:17 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: chesley

Sounds to me like you and your fellow jurors rendered the correct verdict.

Good for you.


80 posted on 07/17/2008 1:58:57 PM PDT by mkjessup (Fred Phelps? It's HELL on the phone! It's for YOU! They say "COME ON DOWN!!!")
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