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Cruze news: [Chevy] Cobalt replacement to get turbo'd 1.4-liter and 40 mpg
autoblog ^ | Jul 14th 2008 | Jeremy Korzeniewski

Posted on 07/14/2008 6:09:19 AM PDT by wolf78

Rising fuel prices, both in the U.S. and abroad, means that automakers can now offer similar engines in vehicles sold throughout the world. According to Automotive News, General Motors' next small car, the Chevrolet Cruze, will be offered with a new 1.4-liter force-fed four-banger, putting out between 120 and 140 horsepower and returning fuel mileage in the 40 mpg range.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: automakers; chat; chevrolet; chevy; cobalt; cruze; energy; generalmotors; gm; mpg; prius; transportation
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You were doing well!


21 posted on 07/14/2008 6:40:53 AM PDT by mr_hammer (Checking the breeze and barking at things that go bump in the night.)
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To: wolf78
No it will share the same platform as the Volt so they will be related.

I am going to guess this new 1.4 L is Direct injected. The question is, it it a 4 or a 3 cylinder.

Unless my math is wrong, if you take a 2.2 DI Eco-Tec ( ergo the engine in the Soltice) and lop a jug off of it you end up in 1.4 territory.

BTW, The Volt display car had a 3 cyl. Eco-Tec... Hmmm... Anyone see a trend here?

22 posted on 07/14/2008 6:42:57 AM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: wolf78

It probably has good torque, though. Remember, “horses for show, torque for go”


23 posted on 07/14/2008 6:44:03 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: wolf78

Apparently an Opel with a Chevy front end, which is not all bad.


24 posted on 07/14/2008 6:44:39 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: wolf78

Cruze? Could they think of a more ghetto name for it. How about cr00z3


25 posted on 07/14/2008 6:45:24 AM PDT by omega4179 (B.Hussein Keep the change!)
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To: Sybeck1

When I was growing up with five kids in my family, we had a Volkswagen Beetle and a Triumph TR6. Between the two cars, we did not have enough seatbelts for all seven of us.

But, back in those days you just packed them in. I remember one trip we had five in the Triumph.


26 posted on 07/14/2008 6:47:55 AM PDT by gridlock (Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons.)
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To: mr_hammer

I was a real sleeper. A Caprice with whitewalls, full hubcaps and complete resonator exhaust, white buckets and floor shift automatic. Under the hood; tube headers, mechanical lifters, full race cam and a big Carter carb.


27 posted on 07/14/2008 6:48:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: WilliamReading

That’s true with the chevy small cars. But not with their main products.they really have to get it right this time even if it means rebadging a toyota like the old geo prizm


28 posted on 07/14/2008 6:52:48 AM PDT by omega4179 (B.Hussein Keep the change!)
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To: Sybeck1

I wouldn’t bet on that, Minivans are going nowhere... if you like crusing in style however the full size van is in most risk of disappearing as I know Ford and GM are debating bringing in their EURO van type vehicles similar to the dodge sprinter and killing the standard van as we know it.


29 posted on 07/14/2008 6:56:02 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: wolf78

I feel that GM would have a winner if they retool for a model duplicating the 1957 Bel Air.


30 posted on 07/14/2008 6:56:09 AM PDT by CHEE (Stink, Steam and All)
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To: WilliamReading

Wildcat 400...Firebird...Cutlass...Tempest...442...

And, anyone remember the CanAm?

400 smallblock, GMs muscle car engine of choice for years.


31 posted on 07/14/2008 6:57:20 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Mr. Lucky

Ethanol performs pretty well in a turbo charged engine, you know.

The two of our three cars that we mileage checked are both Turbo Charged 4 cylinder SAAB cars. One a 5 speed stick, the other an automatic trans. Former a 2001 year model, the latter a 1999 year model. Both formerly provided us 32 mpg, and 30 mpg respectively. Now 21.8, and 20.6 mpg respectively. Been to the pro’s as I’ve said in the previous post. The cars are in tune to proper specs.

The Pro’s I’ve mentioned are a single Volvo/SAAB auto clinic (not a chain) that is rated amongst the top 20 repair facilities across the Nation by AAA. I have to believe they know what the “H” they are doing. Besides we have had our cars serviced by them since 1988.

If it ain’t Ethanol, tell me if you can what it is.


32 posted on 07/14/2008 7:02:26 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: B Knotts
But I agree that diesel engines are superior.

The efficiencies of a Diesel engine over a gasoline engine are inherent. It is in the design of the cycle itself. The Diesel cycle is more efficient than the Otto (Gasoline engine) cycle.

You can futz around all you want with Gasoline engines to remove some of those inefficiencies, and in fact a well designed turbo can do nice things for it, but there are "pumping losses" associated with the Otto cycle (basically, the engine has to use energy to "suck" air into the combustion chamber), that the Diesel cycle does not have. Thats one reason that Diesel engines get such good gas mileage on the highways, they only use as much fuel as they need to keep the engine turning over. In a gasoline engine, there is a significant amount of energy used in pumping/sucking the air through the intake manifold restrictions(the throttle basically). Diesels have no throttle, they are controlled by the amount of fuel that is injected into them.

That, plus the fact that they run at much higher compression ratios, which means that they can extract more energy from the fuel they burn.

33 posted on 07/14/2008 7:05:35 AM PDT by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
My 1979 Ford Fairmont Futura get 1 gallon per pass in the quarter-mile.
FB Launch
34 posted on 07/14/2008 7:06:40 AM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: rockinqsranch

Poor timing? Improper boost? Wrong rear end?


35 posted on 07/14/2008 7:08:49 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Here’s our 401” SmallBlock Ford engine going through the paces:
http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/ELIMN8U/Engine%20Dyno/?action=view&current=100_4105.flv


36 posted on 07/14/2008 7:10:44 AM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: gridlock
But, back in those days you just packed them in.

Yep, we took two week vacations, family of five in a '62 Ford Fairlane, and everyone had a great time.

Today if the little darlings don't each have their own reclining captains chair with personal a/c outlet and DVD/game terminal, they suffer the torments of the damned.

Whiny kids growing up to be whiny Americans.

37 posted on 07/14/2008 7:13:33 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (My grandkids will ask-Was there really a time when I could get on a plane without removing my shoes?)
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To: mr_hammer
Wait right there! The SS Nova’s were outstanding and affordable street cars. Many came equipt with potent 350 / 396 and 454’s turning in low 13’s right off the dealer’s lot.

...as for the Vegas and Chevettes, never heard of them. (LOL)

Don't forget the L-79 Nova SS. 350 horse 327 nicknamed the Giant-Killer because of its ability to knock-off big-block-powered competition.

I had a standard 327 that was modified to 400 hp when I was a teen. We got it insured as an economy car because that's how they were classed (even the SS versions came with a six-cylinder - SS was a trim package).

38 posted on 07/14/2008 7:18:13 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: IYAS9YAS

“I’ve seen some relatively small 4s with turbos last well over 100,000 miles with proper maintenance”

100,000 miles? That’s all you get? That’s NOTHING in today’s market.
100,000 miles - to me - is a “disposable car”.

Unless the new direct-injection engines can deliver 250,000+ miles (based on routine maintenence), they aren’t suitable for service, in my opinion.

100,000 miles is what OLD-technology cars got back in the fifties, if you were lucky.

My first new car was a 1979 Honda Accord (carbureted). It went 170,000 before I sold it, and bought my second, a....
1986 Honda Accord (carbureted). It went 192,000 before I sold it, and bought my third, a...
1993 Acura Integra (fuel injected). It went 300,000 before I sold it, never needed an engine rebuild, and still used hardly any oil when I let it go.

Unless GM can build a car with consumer expectations of that kind of longevity, they’re just building a 2009 version of the Vega....

- John


39 posted on 07/14/2008 7:19:58 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

What model? Corvette, Chevelle, or land yacht?


40 posted on 07/14/2008 7:21:20 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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