Posted on 07/13/2008 8:40:29 AM PDT by MindBender26
The Obama Citizenship Question - - - Have We Been Suckered In By Hillary And The DNC?
Conservatives have been arguing about Obama possibly not being constitutionally qualified to be President. Some claim he is not a “natural born citizen.” Besides distracting us from the real issue of teaching America what a disaster an Obama presidency would be, we have been focused on this issue.
But stop and think for a moment. Even if we are right, have we been doing Hillary’s work for her?
Step back for a moment and consider some Realpolitics.
Remember, we Conservatives do not elect the President. Neither do the hard line Dems. Regardless of who is the candidate, about 40% of the public will vote D, and 40% will vote R.
The deciding vote is always cast by that 20% in the middle, the swing voters.
Often female, they are usually late deciders and most importantly, make up their minds on Maslow type issues; Is my world safe? Is my country safe? Is my family economically, militarily and morally safe… and safer with the Republican or Democrat candidate?
Also remember that the Dems have never been a majority party. They often put together winning coalitions of multiple minorities, but they don’t begin with a majority.
Now, move back to July 2007, a year ago. You are an RNC leader. Who do you want to face?
A very savvy, popular female senator, especially popular with the swing voters, or an unknown, inexperienced, untested, Muslim, Black first term senator?
She would get these minority Dem voters in the GENERAL Election (the only one that really counts.)
1) Traditional blue collar Dem-Labor voters (the ones Reagan took away.) 2) The Fuzzy Left vote 3) The Radical vote 4) The Black vote (Blacks would vote for Charles Manson if he were running on the Dem ticket) 5) The Youth vote (although they talk a lot, they don’t vote much in Generals) 6) The Gay-Lesbian vote (she would have that “secret” vote VERY strongly, and get bazillions of dollars from them.) 7) The Soccer Mom vote 8) The “hurt, downtrodden female” vote
In the GENERAL, our Islamic Black Senator would get
1) The Fuzzy Left vote 2) The Radical vote 3) The Black vote 4) The Youth vote
More importantly, all her baggage is known and already factored in to her favorability ratings. On the other hand, most of his baggage is not and they are Maslow type or bread and butter issue negatives.
His negatives are still ready to be used against him. The serious coverage of Tony Rezko not even started. The Rev. Wright is still circling the field of battle, ready to drop huge electoral fear bombs on those swing voters. The Senator’s negatives scare us. His negatives are new, and there are still many yet to come to the public attention.
Sure he makes a great speech… but that wears out. It would certainly wear out long before a General. His victory in the Primaries was dependent in a large part on the anti-Hillary vote, not on the pro-Obama vote.
Even the old pros at the DNC quietly know this. Their current line about Obama’s popularity is… “Up fast, down fast… just like Bill Clinton’s weenie”
But remember, you are a Republican leader trying to get that MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SWING VOTER, (not the FReeper types.)
Now, move forward Mr. Leader, it’s 2008. We got our wish. The Dems did it to themselves again. This is 1972 all over again. The far-left Dem primary voters have chosen a far-left candidate who appeals to the far-left Dems, the ones who vote in the Primaries, but in the long run he has little real long-term critical appeal anywhere else.
Now, how are you going to beat him in the General?
You are going to wrap him in the Reverend Wright and his hate of White people. Every time they breathe, they will think of Wright. Far-left Dems may have "forgiven and forgotten” Rev. Wright… but we’re going to ensure MOR voters NEVER forget him and his hate.
Speaking about hate, we haven’t even started with ACORN and Obama’s work for them yet. How about Black Reparations. How about his ongoing association with murdering terrorists like Bill Ayers, American terrorists who wish they could kill more Americans all over again.
How about “Military experience? Can Obama even spell "G.I.”? Taxes, terrorism, taxes, crime, taxes, government-directed healthcare, radical Supreme Court judges, did I mention higher, crippling taxes…. over and over and over again.
Untested, inexperienced, a tax and spend, radical, Black Muslim… oh, I’m sorry, did I say Black Muslim… Of course, I meant Islamic Black Democrat. I’m so sorry…. (blush)!!!
And we repeat it over and over and over again
In the GENERAL, he is so much easier to beat than the Hildabeast…. and thank goodness she lost the Primaries.
There is no way she and Bill could pull some political shenanigans and get the nomination now without rioting in the streets… (Chicago 1968 all over again, which guaranteed the Nixon win.)
But wait… If somehow Obama is found to be legally disqualified, who else could they turn to? The Hildabeast of course! Now she is tanned, rested and ready… she never officially dropped out of the race. And it wouldn’t be her who got poor Mr. Obama thrown out of the race. It would be those nasty Republicans and Conservatives!!!
All of a sudden, Obama wouldn’t be the Messiah anymore, but Hillary would be “Our Lady of Virginal Wonderfulness”
Think of it like a Super Bowl. The primaries were the regular season and the playoffs to decide who pays in the Big Game. The Big Game (the General election, the only one that really counts) hasn’t started yet! The MOR voters are on summer break. They won’t get really interested in politics until mid-September. As FReepers, we’re interested in politics and elections all the time, because we are interested in the long term future of our country,,, but not the Sheeple. For the Sheeple, the primaries are over and it’s summertime, kids at the beach or pool, days off, etc.
The only reason there is any attention is because the media is driving it for ratings, because with Iraq settling down, they don’t have anything else to talk about, and politics drives ratings.
But in the world of Realpolitics, in the world of political reality, in the area of what will matter a year from now, we’re still in the pre-game show!
The points don’t count yet.
So, lay off the citizenship thing, at least for now. Let’s make sure Obama gets the nomination, then beat him during the General, on a hundred real issues!
Let’s not get him out now while they can still run in a substitute. Keep the citizenship thing in our quiver, so if by some strange reason Obama won, we can use it then, when it counts, on the offhand chance it is real.
Stop doing Hillary’s work for her. Let’s not let this citizenship thing become Operation Chaos running three month too long. If he goes out now, we get Hillary! We may hate her, but the Sheeple do not!
Don’t do Hillary and Bill’s Rovearian work for them, We want Obama… on their side, as their public face, image and candidate in the General!
It's exactly because they deal with the issues of illegitimacy, and not long ago, race, that they are considered private.
As you pointed out, of all the people and sites in the world, FR is about the only place this is an issue, and the Obama campaign knows “few” of us are going to vote for him, so their attitude is “screw FR and what they want. Let FR stay busy with this BS and not the real issues... “ and we are going right along with their plan.
I don’t recall very many pictures of Bill Clinton where his mouth is actually shut. He can bore them out of the trees, can’t he?
I didn't notice his mouth wasn't gaping open. LOL
Must be serious discusion, no smiles. You think Bill delivered bad news to the Bama's?
McCain will be a one term president.
Future Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and his grandpa Stanley on the beach. (Photo: Family Photo)
http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2007/02/09/60minutes/photoessay2455502.shtml
Do you see a resemblance to his grandfather Dunham?
There are others pic's at the link.
Should this move forward without vetting at this point, it would be safe to say the Dems could have just as easily pushed through an idiot savant for the presidency. And who really knows that they haven't?
We’ll know all too soon.
Obama born in kenya
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,250,000 for obama born in kenya. (0.22 seconds)
Obama born in canada
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,190,000 for obama born in canada. (0.23 seconds)
Obama fake birth certificate
Results 1 - 10 of about 61,700 for obama fake birth certificate. (0.11 seconds)
Odd. A few days ago the fake birth certificate yielded a million plus searches. Looks like google is scouring that search, as it did for images yesterday.
Pay no attention to the man behind the firewall...
It's not too late to hope for a Obama/Sharpton ticket...
Don’t say that to MinuteGal.
Legally, a certified copy with a seal counts as an original original.
A blurry, obviously altered electronic image posted on a web site doesn't.
txflake Results 1 - 10 of about 7,260 for txflake. (0.26 seconds)
txflake obama Results 1 - 10 of about 3,220 for txflake obama. (0.25 seconds)
I've posted about 15k on the internet, and 14,875 were on FR.
Freepers should google themselves. You'd be amazed what they track.
Yet Google only displays 9 out of those 3220 that I’ve posted about Obama.
Extreme coverup underway, people.
Apparently The Kenyan relatives knew Stanley Ann as Anna Toot.
Anna Toot just happens to be the name of one of Stanley Ann's g-g-g-grandmothers, apparently she was something of a family hero.
Stanley Ann was too young to get married in Hawai'i without parental permission.
Suppose Stanley Ann, like many college students even today, had a drinkin' ID? If she got it in the name of her namesake, it would be the only ID she could show to the justice of the peace to prove to him she could get married without parental permission.
On paper, Barak Obama marries Anna Toot.
Could he have been born Barry Toot????
Toot? Toot? Who could vote for Toot?
The returns will increase with all the press conferences for the new book this week.
You are having way too much fun with that story. I can see you smiling as you type it.
Moot the Toot!
*looking WAY too innocent* Ma’am???
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,250,000 for obama born in kenya. (0.22 seconds)
Obama born in canada
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,190,000 for obama born in canada. (0.23 seconds)
Obama fake birth certificate
Results 1 - 10 of about 61,700 for obama fake birth certificate. (0.11 seconds)
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Sorry, you forgot to link them as phrases.
“Obama born in Kenya” gets 533, not 4,250,000
“Obama born in Canada” gets 6, not 1,190,000
“Obama fake birth certificate” gets 622, not 61,700.
With the billions of Internet postings per hour, that's a total of 1157 since last year.
Like I said, we are in the relevancy wilderness on this one.
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| Web | Results 1 - 10 of about 358,000 for obama 'birth certificate'. (0.18 seconds) |
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Friend -- You may have recently heard right-wing smears questioning Barack Obama's birth certificate and citizenship. These assertions are completely false ...
my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert - 14k - |
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Jun 12, 2008 ... In any case, here is Obama's birth certificate. Click on it for a bigger version. Note, I have trimmed the edges of the scan, ...
dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 - 11k - |
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National politics blog from the Los Angeles Times.
latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html - 152k - |
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Friday we started a series on Obama’s birth certificate. The most recent post, Obama’s BIG Birth Certificate PROBLEM, featured two supposed “Certificates of ...
noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/21/obamas-birth-certificate-bamboozle-cont/ - 442k - |
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For those of you posting false information about Obama not being born in the US, here's the information that proves you wrong.
digg.com/2008_us_elections/Here_s_Obama_s_Birth_Certificate - 180k - |
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We tried to obtain a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, but his campaign .... Why is Comarde Obama afraid of displaying his birth certificate, unless … ...
michellemalkin.com/2008/06/10/the-buzz-about-baracks-birth-certificate/ - 191k - |
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Jun 9, 2008 ... There are several (unlikely) rumors circulating regarding Obama’s birth certificate. Rumor one: Obama was born in Kenya. ...
campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= - 22k - |
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Jun 26, 2008 ... I know I was one of the guys who wondered if there was something there when Obama initially refused to provide his birth certificate to ...
campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTIzMDE2OTJiOTkwNmE3MTQwOWZiODYyZTBiMzdhMmI= - 22k - More results from campaignspot.nationalreview.com » |
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The most likely reason why we haven't seen Obama's birth certificate (something I can't remember being demanded of another candidate at this level) is that ...
www.reason.com/blog/show/126972.html - 112k - |
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Kos posts copy of Obama’s birth certificate; Update: Certification, not certificate. posted at 12:13 pm on June 12, 2008 by Allahpundit ...
hotair.com/archives/2008/06/12/kos-posts-copy-of-obamas-birth-certificate/ - 46k - |
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