Posted on 07/13/2008 8:40:29 AM PDT by MindBender26
The Obama Citizenship Question - - - Have We Been Suckered In By Hillary And The DNC?
Conservatives have been arguing about Obama possibly not being constitutionally qualified to be President. Some claim he is not a natural born citizen. Besides distracting us from the real issue of teaching America what a disaster an Obama presidency would be, we have been focused on this issue.
But stop and think for a moment. Even if we are right, have we been doing Hillarys work for her?
Step back for a moment and consider some Realpolitics.
Remember, we Conservatives do not elect the President. Neither do the hard line Dems. Regardless of who is the candidate, about 40% of the public will vote D, and 40% will vote R.
The deciding vote is always cast by that 20% in the middle, the swing voters.
Often female, they are usually late deciders and most importantly, make up their minds on Maslow type issues; Is my world safe? Is my country safe? Is my family economically, militarily and morally safe and safer with the Republican or Democrat candidate?
Also remember that the Dems have never been a majority party. They often put together winning coalitions of multiple minorities, but they dont begin with a majority.
Now, move back to July 2007, a year ago. You are an RNC leader. Who do you want to face?
A very savvy, popular female senator, especially popular with the swing voters, or an unknown, inexperienced, untested, Muslim, Black first term senator?
She would get these minority Dem voters in the GENERAL Election (the only one that really counts.)
1) Traditional blue collar Dem-Labor voters (the ones Reagan took away.) 2) The Fuzzy Left vote 3) The Radical vote 4) The Black vote (Blacks would vote for Charles Manson if he were running on the Dem ticket) 5) The Youth vote (although they talk a lot, they dont vote much in Generals) 6) The Gay-Lesbian vote (she would have that secret vote VERY strongly, and get bazillions of dollars from them.) 7) The Soccer Mom vote 8) The hurt, downtrodden female vote
In the GENERAL, our Islamic Black Senator would get
1) The Fuzzy Left vote 2) The Radical vote 3) The Black vote 4) The Youth vote
More importantly, all her baggage is known and already factored in to her favorability ratings. On the other hand, most of his baggage is not and they are Maslow type or bread and butter issue negatives.
His negatives are still ready to be used against him. The serious coverage of Tony Rezko not even started. The Rev. Wright is still circling the field of battle, ready to drop huge electoral fear bombs on those swing voters. The Senators negatives scare us. His negatives are new, and there are still many yet to come to the public attention.
Sure he makes a great speech but that wears out. It would certainly wear out long before a General. His victory in the Primaries was dependent in a large part on the anti-Hillary vote, not on the pro-Obama vote.
Even the old pros at the DNC quietly know this. Their current line about Obamas popularity is Up fast, down fast just like Bill Clintons weenie
But remember, you are a Republican leader trying to get that MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SWING VOTER, (not the FReeper types.)
Now, move forward Mr. Leader, its 2008. We got our wish. The Dems did it to themselves again. This is 1972 all over again. The far-left Dem primary voters have chosen a far-left candidate who appeals to the far-left Dems, the ones who vote in the Primaries, but in the long run he has little real long-term critical appeal anywhere else.
Now, how are you going to beat him in the General?
You are going to wrap him in the Reverend Wright and his hate of White people. Every time they breathe, they will think of Wright. Far-left Dems may have "forgiven and forgotten Rev. Wright but were going to ensure MOR voters NEVER forget him and his hate.
Speaking about hate, we havent even started with ACORN and Obamas work for them yet. How about Black Reparations. How about his ongoing association with murdering terrorists like Bill Ayers, American terrorists who wish they could kill more Americans all over again.
How about Military experience? Can Obama even spell "G.I.? Taxes, terrorism, taxes, crime, taxes, government-directed healthcare, radical Supreme Court judges, did I mention higher, crippling taxes . over and over and over again.
Untested, inexperienced, a tax and spend, radical, Black Muslim oh, Im sorry, did I say Black Muslim Of course, I meant Islamic Black Democrat. Im so sorry . (blush)!!!
And we repeat it over and over and over again
In the GENERAL, he is so much easier to beat than the Hildabeast . and thank goodness she lost the Primaries.
There is no way she and Bill could pull some political shenanigans and get the nomination now without rioting in the streets (Chicago 1968 all over again, which guaranteed the Nixon win.)
But wait If somehow Obama is found to be legally disqualified, who else could they turn to? The Hildabeast of course! Now she is tanned, rested and ready she never officially dropped out of the race. And it wouldnt be her who got poor Mr. Obama thrown out of the race. It would be those nasty Republicans and Conservatives!!!
All of a sudden, Obama wouldnt be the Messiah anymore, but Hillary would be Our Lady of Virginal Wonderfulness
Think of it like a Super Bowl. The primaries were the regular season and the playoffs to decide who pays in the Big Game. The Big Game (the General election, the only one that really counts) hasnt started yet! The MOR voters are on summer break. They wont get really interested in politics until mid-September. As FReepers, were interested in politics and elections all the time, because we are interested in the long term future of our country,,, but not the Sheeple. For the Sheeple, the primaries are over and its summertime, kids at the beach or pool, days off, etc.
The only reason there is any attention is because the media is driving it for ratings, because with Iraq settling down, they dont have anything else to talk about, and politics drives ratings.
But in the world of Realpolitics, in the world of political reality, in the area of what will matter a year from now, were still in the pre-game show!
The points dont count yet.
So, lay off the citizenship thing, at least for now. Lets make sure Obama gets the nomination, then beat him during the General, on a hundred real issues!
Lets not get him out now while they can still run in a substitute. Keep the citizenship thing in our quiver, so if by some strange reason Obama won, we can use it then, when it counts, on the offhand chance it is real.
Stop doing Hillarys work for her. Lets not let this citizenship thing become Operation Chaos running three month too long. If he goes out now, we get Hillary! We may hate her, but the Sheeple do not!
Dont do Hillary and Bills Rovearian work for them, We want Obama
on their side, as their public face, image and candidate in the General!
I wondered why.
I have considered becoming a swing voter. I would like to be pandered to so, that I could play hard to get.
I simply don’t agree that anyone has been “too focused” on the brith certificate issue. It’s one of many issues and Obama is subject to attack on it until he produces his birth certificate. Whether this somehow helps the Clintons or not means nothing.
>>> Whether this somehow helps the Clintons or not means nothing.
You are kidding, are you not? You are willing to participate in something that benefits the Clintons?
I would not call it being “suckered in”. This was an issue created by the Hillary backers and not the Republicans.
>>>> I would not call it being suckered in. This was an issue created by the Hillary backers and not the Republicans.
Yes, they opened the issue, but now we are the ones running with it... and they are very glad to let us do so.
This is CLINTONS out there. For the Democrats O’Bama’s grip on the nomination isn’t tight until November. And maybe not then.
This is the Swift Boat issue/Training Records issue all over again. Forged paper or tenaciously hidden paper.
If it is, pray it is not proven until after November.
If the RNC has to resort to “we dont think Obama is a natural born citizen”....this election is over. Means pretty much the RNC knows McCain was a bad candidate...and cant beat Obamster on the issues.
This is sad....but what happens when you do not run a real conservative
The article pretty much says that the FR vote is OWNED by the GOP.
Owned.
Yep. Owned.
The GOP OWNS the FR vote.
Except for a few of us who will actually require a candidate to earn it.
If that is being pandered to, oh well.
You’re taking my comment the wrong way. But that is your right.
When do we get to see his real birth certificate?
Where was he born?
How come his parents never married?
As a Muslim, will he protect the rights of Christians?
As an immigrant, will he protect the rights of American citizens?
That's not the point....drip, drip, drip.
Actually we haven’t had a real conservative since Reagan. I’m tired of voting for the LESS LIBERAL candidate but I’ll have to do just that again.
My apologies!
walk, chew gum. They can be done simultaneously.
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