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Mahdi Army Uses "flying IED's" in Bagdhad
The Long War Journal ^ | June 5, 2008 | Bill Roggio

Posted on 07/12/2008 10:03:15 AM PDT by centurion316

The explosions in the Sha'ab neighborhood in the Baghdad district of Adhamiyah, which killed 16 civilians and wounded 29 more, have been "misreported," according to the US military. The explosions in the Mahdi Army stronghold were initially reported in the media as a car bomb attack that targeted a police commander. The attack was held up as the largest bombing in Baghdad since mid-March.

But the US military has refuted the reports, saying the explosions were caused by the premature detonation of a Special Groups improvised rocket launching system. The system, which has been described as a flying improvised explosive device, or airborne IED, had received little attention until yesterday’s explosions in Sha’ab.

"There has been a lot of misreporting on yesterday’s event in the Sha’ab neighborhood of Adhamiyah, a district in northeast Baghdad,” said Lieutenant Colonel Steven Stover, the chief Public Affairs Officer for Multinational Division Baghdad, in an e-mail to The Long War Journal. "What I find disconcerting is there have been few corrections. This was not an engagement and these were not Special Groups transporting missiles and mortars in a bongo truck."

The bongo truck was actually the "launch vehicle," according to bomb experts who surveyed the scene. "This was a crude rocket launching system we call an IRAM [improvised rocket assisted mortars] that prematurely detonated causing the other rockets in the truck to catastrophically exploded," Stover said. Two Mahdi Army Special Groups fighters were killed in the subsequent explosions, as well as 16 civilians. Twenty-nine civilians were wounded and 15 buildings were severely damaged.

There were five blast sites, the US military reported. The initial blast occurred at the rocket launcher, while the four other rockets were thrown several hundred meters to the east and detonated. "It is believed the intended targets were US Soldiers at [Forward Operating Base] Callahan and while in the final stages of preparing for the attack, for an unknown reason one rocket prematurely detonated causing the remaining rockets to launch and explode erratically."

The IRAM and the "Lob Bomb"

While the US military related the IRAM explosions in Sha'ab to the April 28 IRAM attacks on Joint Security Station Thawra I in Sadr City and Forward Operating Base Loyalty, there may be two improvised weapons systems at play. Both the JSS Thawra I and the FOB Loyalty attacks were conducted by pulling trucks right outside of the bases' blast walls and firing the improvised rockets into bases. The attack on FOB Loyalty resulted in two soldiers killed and 16 wounded.

The US military said the weapons used in the April 28 attacks had a limited range of between 50 and 150 yards, according to a source familiar with the attack who wishes to remain anonymous. The US military said the range and size of the warhead on the IRAMs is classified.

Based on the images of the launchers used in the April 28 attacks [see slideshow], the IRAM looks to be a large canister, perhaps a propane or fuel tank, filled with explosives and propelled by 107mm rocket booster. These types of improvised weapons -- essentially flying IEDs -- would have a short range and would be highly inaccurate.

Yet the military said the June 3 launcher in Sha'ab may have been pointed at Combat Outpost Callahan, more than 800 yards away from where the launcher exploded. The odds of hitting a US base more than 800 yards away with such a device would be extremely low. The 107mm rocket would be “grossly underpowered” to conduct such a long-range attack, according to a weapons expert.

What is clear is that the devices are using 107mm rocket charges. The US military said these charges are "of Iranian-manufacture." The lot numbers and dates of manufacture show the rocket casings have been manufactured within the past three years.

The rocket casings shown in the images provided by Multinational Forces Iraq are the same type used in the Chinese-made Type 63 towed 107mm Multiple Launch Rocket. The Iranians manufacture this weapons system and the rockets, according to a former US military intelligence analyst familiar with Iranian munitions and weapons systems.

The type of improvised launch system and rocket is not new to warfare. The Irish Republican Army used a similar system to conduct a February 1991 attack on 10 Downing Street, the London office and home of the British prime minister.

DJ Elliott and Bill Ardolino contributed to this article.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ied; iram; iran; iraq; mahdiarmy; oif
The Admins blocked a Boston Globe article about these weapons as the source of the story was the AP. But, we don't need the AP if we are looking for news. This article was posted a week ago on Long War Journal.

These new devices are an interesting development, but not really new. I recall one day in August, 1971, we were receiving a resupply and the battalion S-2 flew out to give me some important information. The VC and NVA were using a new type of "lob bomb", they would take artillery shells and unexploded bombs, fit them into baskets that contained an explosive propelling charge and use them to lob these munitions into the perimeters of American units. I thought this was strange, but thanked the S-2 for taking the trouble to fly out and tell me. Three days later, during another resupply, I heard a loud explosion outside the perimeter and looked up to see a large object tumbling through the sky in our direction. I had just enough time to order everyone to take cover and jumped into a bomb crater. The object was a 500lb bomb and when it exploded it knocked me senseless. No one was hurt, thanks to the S-2.

These guys are clever and resourceful, as were our enemies of an earlier day. But, they can be beaten as we are showing everday in Iraq.

1 posted on 07/12/2008 10:03:16 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316; All

I wonder how people in the “hood” are feeling about their careless/unlucky bomb makers? And is there any sign of their doing anything about it?


2 posted on 07/12/2008 10:13:11 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Travis McGee

“””The type of improvised launch system and rocket is not new to warfare. The Irish Republican Army used a similar system to conduct a February 1991 attack on 10 Downing Street, the London office and home of the British prime minister.””

As stated ......:o)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2043525/posts?page=18#18


3 posted on 07/12/2008 10:13:49 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: SandRat

Ping


4 posted on 07/12/2008 10:15:07 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: centurion316; All
Obama Mookie PMSNBC
5 posted on 07/12/2008 10:19:35 AM PDT by musicman
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To: centurion316

Some sort of high-powered automated skeet shooter should be able to handle these. The technology is available and therefore doable.


6 posted on 07/12/2008 10:23:27 AM PDT by fella ("...He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: fella

Actually, there is a system currently in Iraq that can defeat these. Its called the CRAM (Counter Rocket Artillery Mortar). It uses a combination of existing radars and gun systems to shoot these things out of the sky much as you suggest. Instead of a shotgun, the heart of the system is a Navy gatling gun (Phalanx) that was designed to defend against anti-ship missles. These systems are expensive and can’t be placed everywhere, so it has limitations.


7 posted on 07/12/2008 10:37:29 AM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: centurion316

Ever get the feeling a lot of these things are intercepted, boobie trapped, then sent on their way?

Brings to mind that brilliant footage of the guys working a morter. After every shot, Aziz yells “alla ackbar”. After the second shot, ‘KABOOM’ no more alla ackbar. No more Aziz.


8 posted on 07/12/2008 10:41:12 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: centurion316
"Mahdi Army Uses "flying IED's" in Bagdhad"

Not very good at it, are they?

9 posted on 07/12/2008 11:07:59 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Squantos

prematurely detonated causing the other rockets in the truck to catastrophically exploded,” Stover said. Two Mahdi Army Special Groups fighters were killed in the subsequent explosions,

Steep learnig curve.


10 posted on 07/12/2008 7:34:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Gotta love those wannabes !........:o)

Cleaning the gene pool LOUDLY !


11 posted on 07/12/2008 7:38:39 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

I think the guy who wrote the Poor Man’s James Bond was their special consultant. What’s that guys name, three fingers Kurt, with one eye?


12 posted on 07/12/2008 7:49:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Kurt Saxon......3 fingers, 1 thumb and one bad eye left......exspurt’n body parts for science !


13 posted on 07/12/2008 7:53:17 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee
Kurt Saxon......3 fingers, 1 thumb and one bad eye left......

His friends call him "Lucky".

L

14 posted on 07/12/2008 7:56:59 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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I think he’s seen the light ..........:o)

http://www.kurtsaxon.com/foods009.htm


15 posted on 07/12/2008 7:57:08 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Lurker

#15


16 posted on 07/12/2008 7:57:39 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos; Lurker

I’d love to go out drinking with Kurt. But I’d open my own bottles of beer.


17 posted on 07/12/2008 8:00:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

No way........:o)

I am out of here for the Nite !

Stay safe !


18 posted on 07/12/2008 8:09:15 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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