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To: SatinDoll

I suspect in the end...we will find that a young woman with a PhD who was a bit naive and unable to cope in the real world. The relationships that she had with men...were always fellow male students who were from exotic countries. When she got pregnant...she generally left the raising of the kids to her mother. Neither of the relationships she had that produced kids...were of any significance. Neither guy stayed around.

The fact that the kid was born in Hawaii...has yet to be disproved in any aspect. While the birth certificate has some suspect problems assigned to it...we are left with few alternate conclusions.

As long as he was born in Hawaii...of any parent...even if wasn’t his mother as claimed...then he still ends up with citizenship and this argument is a joke. The only way the argument becomes real...is if he was born on another island in the Pacific...not from this American mother...and she simply took him as an adoption situation. In this case...he isn’t an American citizen. But this scenario has no real basis and I doubt it can be proven.

Why does Google remove the certificates? I’m guessing that they really don’t want to invent some suggestion out of thin air to support this argument. The one scenario I’ve heard so far that might fit this discussion...is that the mother didn’t deliver a live birth....went into a slight depression and then adopted from thin air some child to fit her fragile mind’s requirements. The birth certificate would have been generated by someone to help cover bases and make this all appear legitimate later.


20 posted on 07/12/2008 1:10:57 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Stanley Ann Dunham, it has recently come to light, dropped in to visit her best friend on Mercer Island three weeks after giving birth to little Barry.

This “friend” stated in an interview that Stanley Ann had come down to Mercer Island (located across Puget Sound from Seattle) all the way from Vancouver, British Columbia, in Canada.

In 1961 direct flights between Vancouver B.C. and Hawaii had just begun. Infants were not allowed on board. If Dunham had left Hawaii for British Columbia it had to have been before delivery of her baby. And as she was only 18 years old, someone had to pay her way.

Barack Hussein Obama Sr., being from Kenya, was a British citizen, as Kenya was part of the British protectorate. Here I enter a purely speculative area - was their baby born in Vancouver as a British citizen? What is going through an 18-year old girl’s head that would drive her to go to Canada while pregnant?

We know she hated America, was a communist as young teenager, and attracted to men who were NOT American. It is not a stretch to believe she did not want her son to be an American either.

Too bad Barbara Ann Dunham, the Senator’s mother, is being held incommunicado in Hawaii (I am beginning to suspect it may not be all voluntary.) She has all the answers and it looks as though Senator Obama is a very, great scam artist.


24 posted on 07/12/2008 1:32:49 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: pepsionice; SatinDoll; Swordmaker
I suspect in the end...we will find that a young woman with a PhD who was a bit naive and unable to cope in the real world.

She was 17 when she got pregnant with Barry. She didn't have a Ph.D. until much later.

The fact that the kid was born in Hawaii...has yet to be disproved in any aspect.

It is not a fact. It's merely an uncorroborated assertion, but one that is easy enough to back up if true. There has been no backing up. The burden is not on anyone to prove that Barry was not born in Hawaii or elsewhere in the U.S. The burden is entirely upon Barry to prove that he is a U.S. citizen by birth according to U.S. law at the time of his birth. This is a constitutional burden, and one that he, to date, has not been willing to shoulder.
48 posted on 07/12/2008 5:43:34 AM PDT by aruanan
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