Posted on 07/10/2008 12:39:46 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
A financial bubble. I will use the familiar term bubble as a shorthand, but note that it confuses cause with effect. A better, if ungainly, descriptor would be asset-price hyperinflationthe huge spike in asset prices that results from a perverse self-reinforcing belief system, a fog that clouds the judgment of all but the most aware participants in the market. Asset hyperinflation starts at a certain stage of market development under just the right conditions. The bubble is the result of that financial madness, seen only when the fog rolls away. is a market aberration manufactured by government, finance, and industry, a shared speculative hallucination and then a crash, followed by depression. Bubbles were once very rareone every hundred years or so was enough to motivate politicians, bearing the post-bubble ire of their newly destitute citizenry, to enact legislation that would prevent subsequent occurrences. After the dust settled from the 1720 crash of the South Sea Bubble, for instance, British Parliament passed the Bubble Act to forbid raising or pretending to raise a transferable stock. For a century this law did much to prevent the formation of new speculative swellings.
Cheers!
Bold statement or ignorant.
I choose BOLD.
We have the seen the beginning.
Up till now we have only seen those who should never have gotten loans, (47% last year alone), but we have not seen those who borrowed against their homes when the market was up.
I do not the know the true numbers but my guess is extremely high, those who took out seconds, thirds, and even fourths at the top.
What will be done with the excellent credit ratings who have negative equity now???????
We are at the beginning of this credit adjustment, and those who fall now will be those we once held up so high.
This will hurt everyone we have every known.
Love you Sis.
These successive Bubbles are doing a great deal to undermine the concept of an ownership society in the public’s mind. I hear a lot of comments from average joes likening the financial markets to a rigged gambling hall. And I can’t say that I disagree. These sharpies are going to look around one day and find that there aren’t any more suckers to fleece. I think that day is coming sooner rather than later.
I wrote a piece here which explains how the disclosure of some additional information could prevent all bubbles in the future by doing just that. It's something interested parties might want to read... even though it's a regulation change that's probably too technical for our "command & control" liberal congress.
- A Free Market Solution To Further Market Crises
Still ... that was a good article by a basically well informed and clear eyed person.
Thanks.
Cheers!
"Far From Normal" Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:40:14 AM · 27 of 32 garandgal to meadsjn
I am by no means an economic expert (at all); but I have interests in both housing and agriculture...and a few other side things.
The biofuel, wind energy, and other such ventures are the new "computer revolution." I am not saying that they are nearly as significant; it simply appears that our "leaders" have belatedly realized that they have given away the store...literally allowing the transfer of untold amounts of intellectual wealth and technological development to the third world. It has left us with "nothing of value to sell" so to speak.
So, whether or not you agree with the green revolution, both parties will be fully on board, as I believe that they view it as the only way to save our economy.
Let's just hope that we are not so stupid as to allow our innovations to simply be handed over to the lowest bidder this time around.
My main changes to this would be to clarify that I am not saying that the "green revolution" is the way to go. Only that, those who make money by investing in the next great thing, believe that they can make it so. For example: Pickens ala yesterday.
Comment:
In todays age of rapid socialization the above statement will be a hard sell to Democrats.
Enjoyed the article.
Back when the Hunt family tried to corner the silver market, the public knew. But, I don't remember how the info got out.
I'll bet the "information cascade" is being staged by someone/ones that will soon get out of the market and leave the schlubs with worthless futures.
Americans deserve the slavery they will be in.
I know that’s not the way they teach it in the publi9c schools, but even Paul Krugman doesn’t dispute it.
The author of this article seems to suggest we will fare better for the next bubble to occur unhindered than allow any corrective restraints. I'm not sure I buy that.
This is what Japan did to stem its deflationary decline for the past 20 years, but at least they had savings to do it with.
We don't have savings. We only have debts. Rising interest rates will stop any fiat 'printing' cold in its tracks.
“””guess the ownership of oil futures is not public, but it would be interesting to know who is buying and, more importantly, who is selling. Commodity traders? Hedge Funds? Pension Fund managers?”””
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The dirty secret you are not being told is that government, The Federal Reserve and it’s member banks are pushing up the price of oil. The banks are near insolvency, loaded with worthless toxic paper “derivatives”. They take their worthless paper and turn it into the Fed as collateral for loans at the “begging window” that Bernanke et. al. have set up. They are using that money, obtained with worthless collateral to try and shore up their balance sheets. You will find that bank lending to business and consumers has severely dried up. So instead of lending,they are speculating. Long oil, short the broad markets, the consumer be damned, the top priority is saving the banking system.
In short, the Fed provides the worthless paper money, the banks push markets around to extreme profit for themselves and the numbnuts in Congress make alot of noise, but do nothing, as they know what is happening but they are all bought and paid for anyway.
The whole thing is beginning to spiral out of control, the soon to be “Mother of All Bailouts” is just around the corner, the government bailout of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae is coming, it’s a matter of when, not if. I’d say before election time it shall be done, so the criminals in Congress can claim they are saving the system.
But........they will only prolong the inevitable..........greed and dishonesty have killed the Golden Goose. A country that was the richest and most powerful on earth 40 years ago is in it’s death throes. Hey, but we’ve got company.....the Euro countries are going under as well. Life as we have known it here in the USA is changing permanently............and not for the better I fear.
*BUMP* !
bttt
There are products that can help you. Please stay away from sharp objests.
Really it's just a phrase to describe a phenomenon in group decision making. But it cannot be faked, or caused.
No one is cornering the oil market but lots and lots of people know where the money is coming from. All the guys who sell those products to institutions all talk to one another and they talk to their customers. No one is trying to hide where the money is coming from in aggregate but the specifics of any trade are certainly kept secret, as it should be. anyone in the institutional finance business can find out what's going on with a phone call.
And much of it is non traditional energy players who are buying "energy index" products from the large investment banks. That's what's caused the upswing in volatilty.
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