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To: Ron Jeremy; Zevonismymuse; TomGuy

Anyone who is voting for Obama does not understand the first thing about conservative ideals. They are not a real conservative.

Similarly, anyone who is a conservative IS voting for McCain. Yes, I’ve heard the litany of McCain’s sins against conservatism. I supported Thompson in the primaries.

The primaries are over. We are faced with a choice. We can choose someone who has been a fiscal conservative his entire career, who has been pro-life his entire career, who has consistently supported the military and the war on terror, and who will appoint justices who are far more likely to be acceptable than his opponent.

The other option is to vote for someone who has been a liberal extremist for all of his short career, who has promised to cripple our military and end the war on terror, raise taxes, recognize gay marriage, and appoint extremist judges.

There are no other choices. You cannot stay home. You cannot vote for a third party candidate and hope for eventual redemption. Once the toothpaste of socialized medicine, leftist extremist justices, crippling taxes, and an eviscerated military is out of the tube, there will be no putting it back in.

This is an election for our survival. McCain is not perfect, but the perfect is the enemy of the good, or in this case, maybe the just good enough.


50 posted on 07/07/2008 9:01:12 PM PDT by LouD
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To: LouD

Well said.


51 posted on 07/07/2008 9:17:11 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: LouD

Nicely put and all true statements of what the future would hold under an Obama administration - and beyond that administration...This board is full of people trying to stick it to the GOP and McCain. Your post should help clear the air to all those reading here.


52 posted on 07/07/2008 9:24:48 PM PDT by Grandsons of Liberty (Revolutionaries for the 21st Century)
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To: LouD

If you live in a 2004-solid-blue state, you need to strongly consider voting Bob Barr and send the national RINOs a message with your vote. By all means, donate to the McCain campaign to fund victories in marginal red/blue states (I do), but if you are like me in the blue-capital of the nation, NYC, you ought to send a message rather than hold your nose in a futile cause. Keep in mind that the Electoral College decides the presidency; voting for a RINO in a true-blue state is surely a waste and only encourages the RNC to support RINOs in future Senate and House elections.


57 posted on 07/07/2008 9:44:58 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: LouD
"There are no other choices. You cannot stay home. You cannot vote for a third party candidate and hope for eventual redemption. Once the toothpaste of socialized medicine, leftist extremist justices, crippling taxes, and an eviscerated military is out of the tube, there will be no putting it back in. This is an election for our survival. McCain is not perfect, but the perfect is the enemy of the good, or in this case, maybe the just good enough."

That is what they told us about "W", to scare us with Gore and Lurch, but look at what we got ANYWAY. Talk about crippling taxes to begin with. You tell me, which party was in the White House and did not stand up to Congressional Spending over the last 7 years and submitted back-breaking, nanny-state budgets?

10 million illegal aliens and a victorious North Korea later.....

Sorry.

Been there. Done that.

Logic does not hold.

Most people in most states will have at least THREE choices on their November ballot.

LIBERAL SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT

RINO MOD/LIB

CONSERVATIVE

I know where our family votes (4 of them) will be parked in November.

61 posted on 07/07/2008 9:49:49 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Does Not "Get My Vote", Which Is For 3rd Party Conservative. McCain NEVER HAD IT TO BEGIN WITH)
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To: LouD
Now, wait a minute Lou...McCain is far, far from perfect.

That said I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post. Conservatives will fare far better under McCain than under Obama. But I'm waiting for McCain's VP choice before I'll cheerlead for him.

66 posted on 07/07/2008 10:01:23 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (The game is over "my friends" and has been for a long time.)
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To: LouD

Well done.


79 posted on 07/07/2008 10:23:47 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: LouD
You are wrong. We can refuse to vote for John McCain. We can refuse to vote for the top of the ticket. We can stay home. I don't need the lecture about the future of the country. It's the same lecture many of us have ourselves been giving for a long time.

John McCain does not represent my values. He mocks Christians and embraces trespassing illegal immigrants. He slaps the faces of conservatives and you say vote for him.

Screw John McCain.

85 posted on 07/08/2008 1:15:08 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: LouD

That was an excellent post LouD. I have copied it and sent to my email list. Thanks.


90 posted on 07/08/2008 4:41:22 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: LouD

Excellent post. I am not a conservative - obviously - but I admire people who think clearly.


102 posted on 07/08/2008 5:40:20 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: LouD
You cannot vote for a third party candidate and hope for eventual redemption...

With attitudes like this, the GOP could have put Snowe on the ticket and people like you would abandon principle to vote for her.

This is the malaise killing us. Selling out principle for short term political gain.

103 posted on 07/08/2008 5:45:44 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: LouD
You can vote for McCain, but he is no conservative. He is technically better than Obama on the issues, but he remains a liberal. And, regardless of how you color it, a vote for McCain is a vote for a liberal and support for liberalism.

I will not vote for Obama. And, I will not vote for McCain. McCain is part of the problem with the GOP and will continue to lead the GOP into the wilderness. In the short run, America will be better off with McCain, but the GOP will be worse. In the long run, and after McCain has eviscerated conservatives within the GOP, it will likely make little difference.

105 posted on 07/08/2008 5:58:51 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: LouD
This is an election for our survival. McCain is not perfect, but the perfect is the enemy of the good, or in this case, maybe the just good enough.

Read my posts since the GOP primary essentially ended. I have consistently said what you are saying. A post I wrote about why we must vote against Obama even ended up on Ann Coulter's website.

I am just making the point that Sowell is correct; there are a surprising number of people who are leaving the GOP reservation. Those are the folks to whom we need to explain the facts of life. This goes for the Bob Barr supporters as well.

108 posted on 07/08/2008 6:21:41 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: LouD
This is an election for our survival. McCain is not perfect, but the perfect is the enemy of the good, or in this case, maybe the just good enough.

Thanks, Lou. That says it very succinctly. All Freepers who want to "teach the GOP a lesson" are risking the future of us all. I suspect them of ulterior, and not so respectable, motives.

Our challenge is to overcome massive Democrat voter fraud. An article on ACORN recently in Human Events showed how they operate in registering phony voters and dumping all the new names on the registrars at the last minute when it is too late to verify them. They do this all over but especially in the swing precincts of the swing cities and states. That is how Al Gore and John Kerry came so close to winning, pure fraud.

Those who want the luxury of "standing on principle" in this election by not voting or by casting a protest vote may never get another chance. Once judges become mini dictators, kiss America goodbye.

112 posted on 07/08/2008 6:54:11 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (bide.)
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