Conservatives for Obama? (Thomas Sowell)

"There are no other choices. You cannot stay home. You cannot vote for a third party candidate and hope for eventual redemption. Once the toothpaste of socialized medicine, leftist extremist justices, crippling taxes, and an eviscerated military is out of the tube, there will be no putting it back in. This is an election for our survival. McCain is not perfect, but the perfect is the enemy of the good, or in this case, maybe the just good enough."

That is what they told us about "W", to scare us with Gore and Lurch, but look at what we got ANYWAY. Talk about crippling taxes to begin with. You tell me, which party was in the White House and did not stand up to Congressional Spending over the last 7 years and submitted back-breaking, nanny-state budgets?

10 million illegal aliens and a victorious North Korea later.....

Sorry.

Been there. Done that.

Logic does not hold.

Most people in most states will have at least THREE choices on their November ballot.

LIBERAL SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT

RINO MOD/LIB

CONSERVATIVE

I know where our family votes (4 of them) will be parked in November.

Powell is not now, nor has he EVER been a conservative.

"They hate McCain and think it is time for a "change" after all the GOP BS and excessive spending and scandals."

Do they REALLY think they're going to get less of that from Obama?

"No conservative is voting for McCain, either."

That's crap. As I see it no REAL conservative is going to sit back and allow Obama the Marxist to win.

I believe you’ve summed it up well, though McCain is far from ideal the alternative of Obama will be a disaster for our military and our country.

Now, wait a minute Lou...McCain is far, far from perfect.

That said I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post. Conservatives will fare far better under McCain than under Obama. But I'm waiting for McCain's VP choice before I'll cheerlead for him.

Mrs. Williams passed away shortly after Christmas. She fell, and sadly passed away. I thought you should know.

Obama will be a disaster of catastrophic proportions.

Mrs. Williams

Oh, my how terribly sad. Prayers for her and Walter Williams.

Thank you.

This is no time to play the fool. If these “conservatives” were aware of how Obama is traveling the world as though he was president of it, perhaps they, too, would wake up before it’s too late.

I received this email today, plus I will paste in Maureen Dowd’s article on where Obama’s money is coming from.

1. sent you (e-mail) Maureen Dowd’s article on “Where is the money coming from?” Information on millions and millions from the middle east and China! Now I read that he wants to give his acceptance speech in a coliseum in front of thousands more people than merely the delegates that would ordinarily hear him; and that he is negotiating with the president of Germany for permission to give a speech in front of the Brandenberg Gate where Reagan gave his famous ultimatum to Gorbechaw (sp) Kinda looks more and more that he is planning on becoming the president of the world, doesn’t it? WOW !!!!! It IS drawing close. The Lord said to be aware and to look up and wait.

2. WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM?
By MAUREEN DOWDPublished: June 29, 2008 Go to Columnist Page » OBAMA’S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING Certainly the most interesting and potentially devastating phone call I have received during this election cycle came this week from one of the Obama’s campaign internet geeks. These are the staffers who devised Obama’s internet fund raising campaign which raised in the neighborhood of $200 million so far. That is more then twice the total funds raised by any candidate in history – and this was all from the internet campaign.
What I learned from this insider was shocking, but I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that when it comes to fund raising there simply are no rules that can’t be broken and no ethics that prevail.
Obama’s internet campaign started out innocently enough with basic e-mail networking , lists saved from previous party campaigns and from supporters who visited any of the Obama campaign web sites. Small contributions came in from these sources and the internet campaign staff were more than pleased by the results.
Then, about two months into the campaign the daily contribution intake multiplied. Where was it coming from? One of the web site security monitors began to notice the bulk of the contributions were clearly coming in from overseas internet service providers and at the rate and frequency of transmission it was clear these donations were “programmed” by a very sophisticated user. While the security people were not able to track most of the sources due to firewalls and other blocking devices put on these contributions, they were able to collate the number of contributions that were coming in seemingly from individuals but the funds were from only a few credit card accounts and bank electronic funds transfers. The internet service providers (ISP) they were able to trace were from Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other Middle Eastern countries. One of the banks used for fund transfers was also located in Saudi Arabia.
Another concentrated group of donations was traced to a Chinese ISP with a similar pattern of limited credit card charges.
It became clear that these donations were very likely coming from sources other than American voters. This was discussed at length within the campaign and the decision was made that none of these donations violated campaign financing laws.
It was also decided that it was not the responsibility of the campaign to audit these millions of contributions as to the actual source (specific credit card number or bank transfer account numbers) to insure that none of these internet contributors exceeded the legal maximum donation on a cumulative basis of many small donations. They also found the record keeping was not complete enough to do it anyway.
This is a shocking revelation.
We have been concerned about the legality of “bundling” contributions after the recent exposure of illegal bundlers but now it appears we may have an even greater problem.
I guess we should have been somewhat suspicious when the numbers started to come out. We were told (no proof offered) that the Obama internet contributions were from $10.00 to $25.00 or so.
If the $200,000,000 is right, and the average contribution was $15.00, that would mean over 13 million individuals made contributions? That would also be 13 million contributions that would need to be processed. How did all that happen?
I believe the Obama campaign’s internet fund raising needs a serious, in depth investigation and audit. It also appears the whole question of internet fund raising needs investigation by the legislature and perhaps new laws to insure it complies not only with the letter of these laws but the spirit as well.

After reading these, I did what I thought I would never do - I sent the McCaln campaign a donation! I suggest we all do just that. If we don’t I shudder to think what life would be like with Obama as President of America, let alone President of the world!

No conservatives are voting for Obama.

Agreed. That is one thing we won't have to worry about .

Hi Lakey! Good to see you again! Check out my #72 post.

The loyalists are still advocating that those conservatives vote for the guy
(1) who continues to stab them in the back,
(2) who distances himself from them at every opportunity, and
(3) who prefers to reach out to the Hillary voters instead of them.
What kind of sense is that?

or over 50 years about 35 percent of the voters have been Demorats and 35 percent have been Republicans, and the remainder are nearly all independents.

Every election from 1952 on has been decided by Independents who tend to vote in 8 year cycles. There is the peak year for a party and then four years later the minor year for a party. Then the indpencdents change parties.

1952 was the Republian year and Ike won. But 8 years later it was the Democrat year and Kennedy won. But 8 years after that it was a peak Republican year and the Republican that had lost in 1960 won in 1968. But 8 years later it was the Democrat year and Carter won. 8 years later it was the Republian year and Reagan won a landslide. But 8 years later in 1992 it was the Democrats turn and Clinton won.

Then after 8 more years it was the Republican's turn and Bush won in 2000. Now in 2008 it is the Democrat year.

only once in the last 56 years has the the rotation failed But it has never failed in the peak party year. In 1980 which was a Democrat minor year the combination of Reagan and Carter gave the Republicans a victory.

But never in 56 years has a party lost an election in its peak year. And just that once in a minor year.

This is a peak Democrat year. So how could a Democrat fail to win? For that to happen the Democrats would have to nominate a far left liberal that was too far to the left for the Independents. And the Republicans would have to nominate a RINO that would be pretty close to the independents positions in this Peak Demorat year.

Guess what has happened this year.. The Democrats have nominated their most liberal candidate ever and the Republicans nominated a certified RINO.

NO CONSERVATIVE had ever won in a peak Democrat year. NEVER!!!!!

And you are wondering why McCain is going after those you think are to the left of center. You are going to sit on your hands and teach those damned Republicans who nominated McCain a lesson.

I can't imagine anything dumber. Every candidate that hopes to win has go get those voters on his side of the political center and at least a few from the other side of center.

Those foolish right wingers who are refusing to vote for McCain are just moving the center of the political spectrum to the left. Now if McCain loses to Obama the conclusion must be that McCain was not left enough to win. And if McCain wins the conclusion will be that Obama was not right enough to win.

The winner always moves the other party in the winning direction.

It is pretty simple. In 2004 there were 36 million independent voters and Bush got 18 million of them. Bush also got 44 million Republican votes. That was Bush's 62 million votes. About 11 million of those 44 million Republicans are died in the wool conservatives and will not likely vote for McCain.

If RINO McCain can get more of the independents than Bush did... and he can, and far left Obama can't get as many independents as Kerry did then we have what the polls are showing. You will note that every vote that in 2004 was for the democrat and moves to McCAin this year. is worth 2 conserivative sit on their hands votes. Why? Because the person that changes from voting for the Democrat to the Republcan takes one vote away from the Democrat and adds one vote for the Republican. While the conservative who does not vote just takes one vote away from the Republican.

Thus 6 million former Kerry voters who switch ot McCain are worth 12 million former Bush voters who just sit on their hands.

The lastest infow= shows McCain getting 58 percent of the independent votes. That is about 24.5 million independent votes for McCain .. 6.5 million more than Bush got in 2004.

But McCain is losing 11 million conservatives.. That leaves him with 33 million Repubican votes and 24.5 million independent votes. That makes a total of 57.5 million votes for McCain. But if you take 6.5 million away from Obama that leaves obama with 55.5 milion votes. McCain wins by 2 million. But that is not the worst of Obama's problems.

The polls also show that McCain will get about 5 milion white working class Democrat votes. That brings mcCain up to a total of 62.5 million votes.

But Obama loses those five million Democrats .. that takes him down to 50.5 million and he loses to McCain 62.5 to 50.5. McCain then had a huge victory of 62.5 million to 50.5 million for Obama.WAy beyond Bush in 2000 or 2004.

And you wonder why McCain is playing up to indpendents and Democrats.

One other thing you need to understand ... YOU AND THOSE LIKE YOU ARE NO LONGER A FACTOR. The 11 milion Conservatives who are not going to vote have moved the center of the Political spectrum 11 million votes to the left. And McCain has moved 6 Million independents to the Republican side of the Center. And Conservatives are no longer in the contest. They are totally unimportant.

It may suprise you to know what candidates try to win those that are going to vote. They could give a rats rump about those who are not going to vote.

What does that mean for you and those who think like you? It means that no presidential candidate in the future will listen to anthing you say or do.

If You are unable to keep McCAin from winning. REPUBLICANS will know they LONGER NEED CONSERVATIVES TO WIN. And there are 3 times as many indpendents as there are conservsatives. .. So converting a few million Independents to Republicans is a lot more effective than kissing the hind end of Conservatives.

What you are doing is taking yourselves out of the presidential contest. No candidate for much of anything will ever pay any attention to you again. In 8 years conservatives will be where Nader is today.. An unimportant JOKE!!!

YOu see the leftists decided to teach Gore a lesson in 2000. They voted for Nader about 3 million of them. You see Gore was not Green enough for the left. And what happened? The nation moved to the right with a Bush victory. That is what happened. So the Greeies came back to the Democratic party in 2004. But Bush had moved the nation to the right. So all the Greenie votes were not enough to elect Kerry. In 2000 they could have elected Gore but by 2003 they could not elect Kerry. This year the Greenies are just a joke.

So McCain has done what it takes to win in a Democratic peak year and the right wing is going to go pout.

They are just throwing away their political future.

Nader and his Greeies moved the nation to the Right in 2000. And now the Conservatives are in the process of moving the nation to the left in 2008.

Bingo

That’s all he’s good for.

Sure they are and many Democrats too.

Well done.

We’ll probably lose California to the Muslim, however if you check out Rasmussen you will see that California has been removed from the “safe Democrat” column for several weeks. I have many non-moonbat Democrat friends and family, none are voting for Hussein.