Posted on 07/06/2008 10:47:57 AM PDT by Aria
I had not caught up until today with this apparent controversy over whether the Hawaii birth certificate proffered by Obama's campaign is a forgery and whether there are legitimate questions about whether he was born in the United States — if he wasn't, he almost certainly would not be qualified under the Constitution and relevant immigration statutes to be president. Our Jim Geraghty seemed to pooh-pooh the birth certificate controversy about a week ago, but according to the above cited report (at a site called DougRoss@Journal) and a new one from Israeli Insider, there are new developments, and the Obama campaign appears to be stonewalling. Shouldn't it be a fairly easy matter to prove he was born in Hawaii if he really was? Why wouldn't Obama just end this quickly?
Is there anything to this?
ADDENDUM: I should add to the above that I am not a conspiracy theorist. My predisposition on the many stories floating around about Obama and his circle is to ignore them on the following theory: If there was really anything to this or that, the Clintons would have found it and gotten their media friends all over it. This story about Obama's eligibility puzzles me because (a) it is so basic, (b) it should be so easy to prove the relevant facts of his birth, (c) the Obama campaign's response to the story is bizarre, and (d) it seems to be getting worse rather than resolved.
07/06 12:09 PM
What I’m most perplexed by is the huge advance he got on his first book, just out of law school, I believe. Even if a publisher were taken in by the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review angle, I just can’t see that kind of an advance without something else being behind it.
So do you think that anyone who questions Obama’s qualifications under the Constitution to be President is a racist?
Dems vett presidential candidates? LOL! Where have you been? The Dems do not let facts get in the way or the law if they can get around it.
He’s now a legitimate candidate, at least on those grounds.
So anyone can be president of the United States. The Dims can pick anyone as long as he can fool the American voting public.
You certainly assume a lot of efficiency on the part of the Democrat party.
Just so. He could have been born in Philadelphia on the Fourth of July. He may be a US citizen but he is no American.
It's sort of a new twist on the old story line of "son of immigrants makes good"
I can see the headlines now....
But ANY American should be able to prove to the satisfaction of their fellow citizens that they Constitutionally meet the requirements to serve as President.
That is not racism, that is not unreasonable, that is absolutely proper.
A person gets pulled over by a cop, do you think the cop is going to let them go just because the driver says “I don’t have to show you my license, I have a license to drive, and it’s valid, and up todate, no problems!”
Uh uh. That officer is going to say “Let’s see the license.”
HUH? Well, no--but it'll sure get spun that way. Particularly if the Democrat Dirty Tricks Squad is behind the controversy from the start.
I mean, look how Obama works the subject of race into everything. It's always Subject #1.
Nope. Just embarrass the 'rat party and frustrate the international socialist cabal who is running him.
The "country" (Americans usually say "nation") would take it in stride.
But what is being attempted here, is a racially motivated - I’ll repeat that - racially motivated attempt to disqualify him on the most chicken-shit grounds imaginable. Similar in every way to the old voting laws used in segregated states a half century ago.
Your theory interests me. We don’t trust your candidate. We have reasons that you find objectionable. Your reaction to a view different than your own is to state that we are racists.
Because Obama has put up a document on his website that many reasonable people find lacks credibility- you jump to the conclusion those people are racist? It might interest you to know that earlier this year when the question of John McCain’s “natural citizenship” came under scrutiny there were many freepers who thought- and still do from what I’ve seen recently- that HE is not eligible for many of the same kinds of questions raised about your candidate. Are they racists?
Racism is a damned serious charge in my book, and not a charge to throw at your political opponents without serious thought and examination.
Could it be he didn’t register for the draft? Somewhere,
I read about that one...
It’s just really strange to me that the Democratic party would put someone in as their nominee such Obama. He doesn’t fit. I don’t care how you add it; subject it, multiply it or divide it. He doesn’t fit.
That could be, but I don’t see how the song-and-dance over the birth certificate keeps anyone off of that scent.
Giggle.
Also, he is just plain strange.
I read a pretty good line a few days ago...don't know if I saw it here on FR.
"Obama walked through every door that was opened for him."
He had to have been plucked from obscurity and relentlously groomed to get where he is so quickly--wonder which bigshot was behind this very linear effort? Emmanuel? It's like he was drafted as soon as he got out of law school. Somebody noticed his charm (well, he must be charming to have charmed so many), charisma and color and slicked him up for the Derby.
And our horse is old, sick, bad-tempered...
Weren’t the old voting rights laws following the Constitution? Please. I can’t be fooled.
Who’s my candidate? As far as I know I don’t have one.
Either
a) The real birth certificate (original, not what a current record would show) would show that his stories of being the offspring of a poor goat-herder are lies, and thus his entire myth would be crushed
or
b) By letting people on the right speculate for an extended period they can wait and then, when they do produce the original birth certificate, completely discredit large parts of the right
I am leaning towards B, with the belief they are waiting until some mainstream reporters, and perhaps politicians, are caught in the net, so it has a greater impact.
As it stands the only people they would discredit now are a few small time Internet reporters, bloggers and “Israeli Insider” which, frankly, nobody had ever heard of before now.
Well, since you brought it up, this Einstein of a blogger named AJStrata, thinks he’s just invented the wheel, while having the gaul to crack on my research, calling it “Poor.”
I won’t stoop to his level, but all I have to say about him and his worthless drivel is that
(a) he is a liar (or Superman in disguise).
(b) he does not know what he is talking about.
(c) he has only read my first post, and
(d) he’s only proven one thing, and that is (e) All of the above.
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