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Is There Legitimate Doubt About Obama's Eligibility to be President?
The Corner on National Review Online ^
| 7/6/2008
| Andy McCarthy
Posted on 07/06/2008 10:47:57 AM PDT by Aria
I had not caught up until today with this apparent controversy over whether the Hawaii birth certificate proffered by Obama's campaign is a forgery and whether there are legitimate questions about whether he was born in the United States if he wasn't, he almost certainly would not be qualified under the Constitution and relevant immigration statutes to be president. Our Jim Geraghty seemed to pooh-pooh the birth certificate controversy about a week ago, but according to the above cited report (at a site called DougRoss@Journal) and a new one from Israeli Insider, there are new developments, and the Obama campaign appears to be stonewalling. Shouldn't it be a fairly easy matter to prove he was born in Hawaii if he really was? Why wouldn't Obama just end this quickly?
Is there anything to this?
ADDENDUM: I should add to the above that I am not a conspiracy theorist. My predisposition on the many stories floating around about Obama and his circle is to ignore them on the following theory: If there was really anything to this or that, the Clintons would have found it and gotten their media friends all over it. This story about Obama's eligibility puzzles me because (a) it is so basic, (b) it should be so easy to prove the relevant facts of his birth, (c) the Obama campaign's response to the story is bizarre, and (d) it seems to be getting worse rather than resolved.
07/06 12:09 PM
TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; forgery; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: liberallarry
"But what is being attempted here, is a racially motivated - I'll repeat that - racially motivated attempt to disqualify him on the most chicken-shit grounds imaginable."I suppose you have some proof of that allegation and will post it immediately.
And, for the record, since when is following Constitutional and legal requirements considered 'chicken-shit grounds'?
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posted on
07/06/2008 12:26:59 PM PDT
by
JustaDumbBlonde
("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
To: Aria
Shoot...if he had a REAL and VALID certificate..it would have been out there weeks ago...as it is..what’s he got to lose by trying to see if he can scam one by.....
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posted on
07/06/2008 12:27:02 PM PDT
by
mo
To: liberallarry; All
This is just ridiculous. Had he been exposed as an illegitimate candidate the Democrats never would have selected him.
If a Michelle tape surfaces, or Obama is exposed as a hopeless flip-flop artist, or has yet unrevealed ties to criminals like Rezco, he'll lose and his supporters, though bitterly disappointed, will accept it.
But what is being attempted here, is a racially motivated - I'll repeat that - racially motivated attempt to disqualify him on the most chicken-shit grounds imaginable. Similar in every way to the old voting laws used in segregated states a half century ago.
You're not fooling anybody but yourselves.
"I'm Senator Obama-lama-ding-dong, and I approved this infantile spew from LiberalLarry"
[nice job Larry, be sure to call up for the conference call tonight, ok? - Barry]
To: Bommer
This could very well sink him and give Hillary another chance if it starts blowing up! Don't wait on McCain to do anything; wimp. Late September is a good time for it to blow up on Obama.
To: Fizzie
We need to read the UNAVAILABLE 1995 version of his book. What is in the 1995 original version that was edited out of the Re-released version.
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posted on
07/06/2008 12:27:46 PM PDT
by
ncfool
(Hopefully we will see the birth certificate. Obama the Manchurian Candidate .)
To: mkjessup
I do believe in the law. Absolutely. But I also believe in being realistic...and in seeing through pretense.
The moment he declared his candidacy he should have been investigated...and I’m sure he was. In my mind that time is over. Passed. The Statute of Limitations has expired.
He’s now a legitimate candidate, at least on those grounds.
To: lgwdnbdgr
Nobody cares about this outside of the right wing blogosphere. You are leaving out the Hillary bloggers and fans.
To: mkjessup
If my stuff was infantile (and that’s only your opinion) you’v e exceeded it in every way.
To: liberallarry
But what is being attempted here, is a racially motivated - I'll repeat that - racially motivated attempt to disqualify him on the most chicken-sh** grounds imaginable. That has to be the most stupid comment I've read! Since when is proving your a US Citizen "racially motivated?" Your KOS buddys played the exact same card on McCain, and were immediately shotdown! Where were your pathetic crys of racism then? Exposing fraud of a liar no matter the race is truth! You sound like the same Lib fraud voting idiots in Atlanta that screamed 'racism' when asked to flash a drivers license to prove they are who they clami they are in order to vote!
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posted on
07/06/2008 12:32:16 PM PDT
by
Bommer
(A Third Party can win when Republicans and Democraps stand for the same thing!)
To: motoman
I don’t think you have to be a big Obama supporter to understand the outright rage and huge cynicism that would be rife in this country for many years should Obama be disqualified on some technicality.
It would set back race relations decades.The entire fabric of the nation would be hurt beyond what we can even conceive of now.It would be 1967 all over again and the mantra of black America would be”whitey has tricked us again”.
Some might say.”So what,let them steam”You are probably the ones that have never been IN a race riot.
A very frightening event,indeed.
To: SECURE AMERICA
And in addition to that, he is an incompetent, ignorant, and un-American airhead.
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posted on
07/06/2008 12:36:08 PM PDT
by
mulligan
(A)
To: Aria
Remember this?
Obama passport records kerfluffle
In order to obtain a U.S. passport one must provide a birth certificate as proof of citizenship in the U.S.
Connection?
AV
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posted on
07/06/2008 12:36:29 PM PDT
by
Atomic Vomit
(He's eating my brain. I can feel it.)
To: Bommer
Sorry no. I can't vote for Obama because I despise the anti-war left and fear I'd be voting for Wright or Farrakhan or both.
I can't vote for McCain because I can't stand his domestic policies or his temperament. Or - really being politically incorrect - because he's too old, too short, too fat, and too ugly.
So I have no one to vote for and no allies, KOS or otherwise.
But I do love my country anyway and I do not want to see it torn apart by a bunch of sore losers...and I'm speaking to you and those who think like you.
To: liberallarry
Anyone who lived through that terrible 1967-68 period does NOT want to relive it-that is,if they are sane.
To: liberallarry; All
I do believe in the law. Absolutely. But I also believe in being realistic...and in seeing through pretense.
The law is the law pal. Don't try and parse it.
The moment he declared his candidacy he should have been investigated...and Im sure he was. In my mind
THERE is your problem. "In your mind" does NOT meet the test of the Law.
that time is over. Passed. The Statute of Limitations has expired.
You bloody idiot, there is no 'statute of limitations' on the Constitutional requirements for the Presidency! WTF is wrong with you?
Hes now a legitimate candidate, at least on those grounds.
Not until it is proven to the satisfaction of the Constitution.
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posted on
07/06/2008 12:38:42 PM PDT
by
mkjessup
(Larry? When you're in a hole, the first thing you need to do is STOP DIGGING.)
To: liberallarry; All
If my stuff was infantile (and thats only your opinion) youve exceeded it in every way.
Go back and look at that absurd post of yours at #95. You have basically accused anyone raising questions about Obama's qualifications to be President under the Constitution's requirements of being a racist.
You might as well be joining 'Reverend' Jeremiah Wright in a rousing chorus of 'God D*mn America'.
You make me sick.
To: liberallarry
Sore losers my ass! This is about constitutional elegibility to be President pure and simple! Got news for you pal, the Left will try to tear the country apart with or without Obama!
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posted on
07/06/2008 12:44:21 PM PDT
by
Bommer
(A Third Party can win when Republicans and Democraps stand for the same thing!)
To: liberallarry
Sorry no. I can't vote for Obama because I despise the anti-war left and fear I'd be voting for Wright or Farrakhan or both.
Sure you can, you're practically posting Obama 'stopthesmears' bulletins in this thread, I think you like the guy.
I can't vote for McCain because I can't stand his domestic policies or his temperament. Or - really being politically incorrect - because he's too old, too short, too fat, and too ugly.
Now THAT has got to be the clearest case of projection I've seen here on FR in a week.
So I have no one to vote for and no allies, KOS or otherwise.
So WTF are you trying to do in this thread then?
To: 9YearLurker
what politician has ever triedlet alone succeededbefore in passing off a fictionalized account of his life as an autobiography? Both Clintons passed off many lies about their respective pasts as truthful--usually based on details which could not be checked and on the presence of people now dead. Never an occasion where there was a known living witness. Obama is not above taking this squalid practice to a new level. His ethics have been in the gutter since the outset.
To: liberallarry
re: But what is being attempted here, is a racially motivated - I'll repeat that - racially motivated attempt to disqualify him on the most chicken-shit grounds imaginable. Similar in every way to the old voting laws used in segregated states a half century ago.)))
Which is why I suspect a put-on and a set-up by the Moveon crowd. Sort of like planting a noose on your own doorknob and screaming "racist"!
Still, it's not remotely unreasonable to request any candidate's birth records.
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