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Knife Crime; Britain’s Shame
The Brussels Journal ^ | 07/03/2008

Posted on 07/04/2008 12:24:01 PM PDT by Republicain

Violent crime has doubled since Labour came to power a decade ago. Stabbings and assault in Britain are now common, if not daily occurrences; at night city centers are generally regarded as no-go areas; “feral” youths and gangs loitering the streets – often drunk on cheap alcohol – make many people too afraid to go for a walk on a summer evening.

Every week yields up plenty of reasons why people have good reason to be scared in modern Britain. On Saturday evening 60-year old Stan Dixon, a former soldier, was attacked by youths, for asking them not to swear in front of a woman. He died yesterday in hospital. 17 teenagers have been murdered in London alone this year. The latest victim, 16 year-old Ben Kinsella, was killed on Sunday night. On Tuesday Dee Willis, a 28 year-old woman, was stabbed to death by a female attacker in south-east London. Today, the country woke up to reports of the extremely brutal and apparently motiveless murder of two French exchange students, Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez (both 23). The two men had been playing computer games at Mr. Bonomo’s apartment in New Cross, south-east London, on Sunday night, when they were attacked, gagged, tortured (suffering nearly 250 stab wounds between them), and their bodies set on fire.

The police are no longer beloved by the public, it is sad to say. Political correctness and bureaucratic paperwork has meant that officers go for soft targets (including such trivial things as allegedly dropping an apple core), while ignoring serious crime, such as burglary. This week, however, there was a brief spark of hope that things were beginning to turn around. Metropolitan police chief Sir Ian Blair and London mayor Boris Johnson held a joint press conference, announcing that over a thousand arrests had been made, and 538 knives confiscated from youths, in a recent police initiative. Yet, a slap in the face to this hard work, and, indeed, to the general public, the Sentencing Guidelines Council has issued new sentencing guidelines that will mean anyone found guilty of possessing a knife will face only a small fine – no deterrent whatsoever.

The British are not known for protesting. But, today, with a lack of faith in the authorities, a grassroots movement against violence is beginning to emerge. Families of victims of violent crime are making themselves visible, and heard. Yesterday a march was led by the sister of Ben Kinsella, in response to his murder, calling for an end to the epidemic of violence.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: corruption; crime; europe; guncontrol; labour; liberalism; rkba; selfdefense; uk
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1 posted on 07/04/2008 12:24:02 PM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

No surprise. Self-defense is all but illegal in the UK.


2 posted on 07/04/2008 12:25:34 PM PDT by KingSnorky
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To: Republicain

At least there’s no such thing as a drive-by stabbing or beating.


3 posted on 07/04/2008 12:25:37 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
At least there’s no such thing as a drive-by stabbing or beating.

Yes, just the more hands-on, neighborly face-to-face stabbings and beatings.

Really builds that sense of community.

4 posted on 07/04/2008 12:28:41 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: stuartcr

Yep no drive-bys they just run by in packs!


5 posted on 07/04/2008 12:29:11 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: stuartcr

Don’t give them any ideas.

It could be done rather easily by riders of bicycles and mopeds.


6 posted on 07/04/2008 12:29:17 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Republicain

My brain is incapable of understanding a protest in which people demand less freedom . Maybe they should throw their own knives into the harbor or something .


7 posted on 07/04/2008 12:30:51 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Republicain

Next we will be hearing about fork crime, and then, spoon crime.


8 posted on 07/04/2008 12:33:43 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: stuartcr

Yeah, there is. Same way people play “mailbox baseball” from cars.

Only they use knives and cricket bats, and it’s easier for them since they have tighter quarters and higher population density.


9 posted on 07/04/2008 12:35:00 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Republicain
Government can't stop it. The only thing that can is the perpetrators becoming so afraid of citizen retaliation that they trim their sails. It would take no more than four, maybe five well-publicized and accurate head shots by armed citizens over a period of a week or so. A small price to pay when set against the number of dead and wounded piling up due to continuing street violence.

A couple of generations ago, this didn't have to be patiently explained to willfully blind, university-indoctrinated public servants - everybody, regardless of political affiliation, knew how the math worked.

10 posted on 07/04/2008 12:42:01 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: KingSnorky

The populance was all but disarmed in the 19th Century in return for aneffective, and unarmed police force. The thing worked, however, only so long as the people were willing to abide by the law, and the law was strictly enforced. Where the sovereign fails to uphold his part of the bargain and fails to protect life and property, the system breaks down. The criminal class must have respect for the law, or the law is useless. Even law-biding citizens will do as they please if they law has no teeth.


11 posted on 07/04/2008 12:42:34 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: Republicain; zencat

They'll probably just outlaw knives, edged weapons, and other sharp object. Youthful offenders will be put into a diversion program of picking up rocks and small pebbles making them unavailable for unlawful purposes.


12 posted on 07/04/2008 12:43:04 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I suppose that if someone is standing around, and they see a car come up with someone hanging out the window with a bat or knife, and they are too stupid or terror struck to take a couple steps back, then they would suffer from a drive-by stabbing or beating. Not quite the same as getting shot by a passing vehicle that is 10 or 20 yds away.


13 posted on 07/04/2008 12:46:31 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Given the erratic aims of thugs, a knife is probably more dangerous than a handgun.


14 posted on 07/04/2008 12:47:25 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: RobbyS

Unarmed police used to work when the UK was British and
kids were caned for acting out. Since the end of Empah
and importation of the dregs of the Third World and the
social policies of Labour they’ve lost their way.


15 posted on 07/04/2008 12:56:24 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Republicain

When knives are outlawed only outlaws will have knives.


16 posted on 07/04/2008 12:57:58 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: Republicain
Well, they obviously need to ban knives. They are so violent.

17 posted on 07/04/2008 12:58:33 PM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: Republicain
“feral” youths and gangs loitering the streets – often drunk on cheap alcohol – make many people too afraid to go for a walk on a summer evening.

In America we have our share of urban violence but it is generally concentrated in areas besieged by poverty and large minority populations, and much of this violence occurs while participating in other criminal activity. There's something entirely different going on in Britain. "Yobs", "Chavs", "ASBOs" or whatever they are called, are drunken, largely white youths who have taken to beating people to death for sport, often with little reason or provocation at all.

18 posted on 07/04/2008 1:01:42 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Republicain
Political correctness and bureaucratic paperwork has meant that officers go for soft targets...

Right. It's the way cowardly and self centered bureaucracies operate. Go for the "low hanging fruit" rather than offend the offenders.

19 posted on 07/04/2008 1:02:03 PM PDT by Gritty (Europe's dwindling manpower and will are a one-way ticket on the Oblivion Express - Mark Steyn)
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To: Republicain

Wow. Good thing they got those guns off the street. /s


20 posted on 07/04/2008 1:04:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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