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Shoot to Stun
New York Times ^ | 07-02-08 | Paul H. Robinson

Posted on 07/02/2008 7:44:56 AM PDT by green iguana

A NARROWLY divided Supreme Court ruled last week that the Second Amendment gives Americans the right to keep a loaded gun at home for their personal use. Presumably, citizens can use these weapons to defend themselves from intruders. But given the growing effectiveness and availability of less lethal weapons, it is likely that state laws will increasingly keep people from actually using their guns for self-defense.

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Of course, anyone who uses a gun in self-defense may argue that he would have used a less lethal weapon if he had had one at hand, but there was only the firearm. The problem with this argument is that the limited option is the person’s choice, and the law may not be blind to that choice.

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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; secondamendment
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So I guess I'll have to buy and carry around 8 or 10 Tasers in case I'm attacked by a gang. Going to have to purchase a whole bunch more holsters. And get about 6 more arms attached...
1 posted on 07/02/2008 7:44:56 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: green iguana

We all saw this coming. No matter what SCOTUS said last week, you know the gun-grabbers will still be out in force making sure we’re all sitting ducks.

Some ducks are more equal than others; like the thug ducks with the guns.


2 posted on 07/02/2008 7:47:28 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: green iguana

Shoot for effect..............


3 posted on 07/02/2008 7:48:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: green iguana
Talk about a fact-free editorial. First of all, the VAST majority of defensive uses of guns do not involve firing them. Just demonstrating that you are armed is sufficient.

And second, Castle Doctrine laws are becoming more, not less, common.

The Gun Control types act like we can't shoot holes in their arguments with a peashooter.

4 posted on 07/02/2008 7:50:37 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: green iguana

Taser Int’l just lost their first wrongful death civil suit. Expect more to follow. Any non-LE (ESPECIALLY w/o proper training) considering using a Taser places themselves in grave financial risk.


5 posted on 07/02/2008 7:51:25 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: xDGx

Don’t sue me, bro.


6 posted on 07/02/2008 7:52:20 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: green iguana
A NARROWLY divided Supreme Court ruled last week that the Second Amendment gives Americans the right to keep

The Court ruled no such thing.

They ruled that, quote: "The Second Amendment protects an individual right..."

"Protects", not "gives'.

7 posted on 07/02/2008 7:52:58 AM PDT by holymoly
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To: green iguana

Are NYT writers born stupid or do they have brainectomies before being hired?


8 posted on 07/02/2008 7:54:22 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: green iguana
How about a semi auto paint ball gun with the balls filled with pepper spray or mace? Or a shot gun fille with rock salt?

Both better than nothing, but with the SCOTUS decision I think a .40 Sig Sauer 229 a better solution.

9 posted on 07/02/2008 7:55:09 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel!!)
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Of course, anyone who uses a gun in self-defense may argue that he would have used a less lethal weapon if he had had one at hand, but there was only the firearm.

Then the prosecutor asked, "Why did you shoot the bad guy 13 times?".

Answer, "My pistol only held 13 rounds!".

10 posted on 07/02/2008 7:55:26 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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> So I guess I’ll have to buy and carry around 8 or 10 Tasers in case I’m attacked by a gang. Going to have to purchase a whole bunch more holsters. And get about 6 more arms attached...

Last week it was reported in the NZ Herald that our cops are lobbying for some new Taser technology. Apparently it is fired from an ordinary shot-gun, and the slug carries all it needs to deliver a nasty, wireless jolt.

(Presumably it somehow builds and carries a charge with an onboard capacitor or something...?)

That sort of technology has a certain amount of appeal to me. Being to tase a gang of, say, 10 scroats with a pump-action shotgun loaded with taser shells sounds like the Cat’s A$$!

Have you lot heard much of this technology? Is it for real?


11 posted on 07/02/2008 7:57:43 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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And of course, they aren't legal in NYS. And you have no constitutional right to own one.
12 posted on 07/02/2008 7:59:22 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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The idiot professor didn't inform in the article about what to do after you've tased your home invading gang banger.

Do you keep the juice on until the batteries run down while waiting for the 911 response? What if your stunned gangster pulls out the darts? It has and does happen? Then what?

The most dangerous thing that cops do is putting the cuffs on a suspect. That is the first thing they do after tasing a suspect. Is that what you want your daughter/wife/mom to be doing? Holding a Taser in one hand while attempting to cuff one handed?

All going well, the cops arrive and arrest the guy, charge him with breaking and entering and he's back on the street in 30 days. Think he'll be pissed that you tased him for 30 minutes while waiting for the cops?

13 posted on 07/02/2008 8:00:26 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We came within one vote of losing a basic Constitutional and God-given freedom. That’s really scary. Two more lib-appointed judges, which could happen under BO...our poor grandkids...words fail me.


14 posted on 07/02/2008 8:00:36 AM PDT by BBT
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To: green iguana

My brain is tired trying to follow that contorted logic.


15 posted on 07/02/2008 8:00:40 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Taser XREP


16 posted on 07/02/2008 8:00:45 AM PDT by green iguana
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Dead criminals don't sue.

Well, unless the local gun store starts carrying these:


17 posted on 07/02/2008 8:08:26 AM PDT by AreaMan
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> Taser XREP

WOW! That’s the ticket!

I wonder what it’s like getting shot by one of those, ay. The perp would have the blast trauma to deal with, as well as an almighty ZAP! to calm him down...

(Strange as it might sound, I’d probably try to volunteer to find out what it’s like, if our cops wanted to give it a test drive. It’s only a matter of time before the Bad Guys get their hands on ‘em, and it’s in my best interest to know what-happens-if...)


18 posted on 07/02/2008 8:09:15 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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But given the growing effectiveness and availability of less lethal weapons

Such as...?

19 posted on 07/02/2008 8:11:18 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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“As effective less-than-lethal weapons proliferate, the laws of self-defense may ultimately relegate last week’s court decision to the status of an odd little opinion, one that works mainly to ensure some special constitutional status for gunpowder technology. Gun collectors will be fond of it, but for most of society, it will have little practical effect.”

This liberal douche just can't get his tiny brain around “shall not be infringed.”

20 posted on 07/02/2008 8:13:54 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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