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Vietnam Veterans Against the War Lane Anderson Spreads Smear That McCain Started Forrestal Fire

Posted on 07/01/2008 9:42:59 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul

Look out for the next smear from the radical left, that McCain started the USS Forrestal fire.

McCain plane was hit by an accidentally fired rocket, for Pete's sake how to you even work up a lie that he's somehow responsible.


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KEYWORDS: forrestal; mccain; navair; vvaw
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1 posted on 07/01/2008 9:42:59 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: Doctor Raoul

His plane was hit?


2 posted on 07/01/2008 9:46:23 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Doctor Raoul

The scumbags have some serious chutzpah considering most of the VVAW wankers were proven to be fakers.


3 posted on 07/01/2008 9:47:30 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: CindyDawg

It was parked on deck and hit by a missile accidently released and fired from another plane on deck.


4 posted on 07/01/2008 9:52:19 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: CindyDawg

It was. while sitting on the deck.


5 posted on 07/01/2008 9:53:57 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (The devil made me do it!,.......................................................( well, not really.)
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To: CindyDawg
His plane was hit?

While on the flight deck of the Forestall (sp?). I believe that there was a short circuit in the fire control of another plane on the flight deck, and McCain's A4 was hit by what was I believe a Zuni rocket. His plane was fully fueled and armed, and he was waiting to take off. McCain got out of his plane and had to crawl through fire to get to safety.

McCain was absolutely blameless, and anyone who says anything different is beneath contempt. A lot of good men died that day.

Mark

6 posted on 07/01/2008 9:54:45 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: Doctor Raoul

I don’t think anyone will try to attack McCain with this. The Forrestal Fire is on video. You can see with your own eyes exactly what happened and the sequence of events clearly exonerate McCain. Why in hell would he start something that could have very well killed him anyway? He’s a backstabber but he doesn’t deserve this kind of tripe being spread against him.


7 posted on 07/01/2008 9:55:03 PM PDT by WildcatClan
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To: smoketree
I saw footage of it and a plane in the front of the line had a hot-fire on a Air to Air missile and it took out JM’s axillary fuel tank and the rest is history.
8 posted on 07/01/2008 9:55:34 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Doctor Raoul

“Pete’s sake how to you even work up a lie that he’s somehow responsible.”

Um, because libscum are lying sacks of sh!t who know they have dumbed down the American public (thanks, NEA) to the point where many dem voters will buy any idiotic cr@p they spew? See 1984 by Orwell.


9 posted on 07/01/2008 9:56:00 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Doctor Raoul

Hope Mc. Stain sues him blind.


10 posted on 07/01/2008 9:56:02 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (The devil made me do it!,.......................................................( well, not really.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Nah, It was a guy named StevenCVA59. He loaded the Zuni rocket improperly.
He’s on aol.com. Just ask him.


11 posted on 07/01/2008 9:56:29 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Doctor Raoul

From: Naval Aviation News, October 1967
compiled and edited by Senior Chief Journalist John D. Burlage

The Forrestal Fire
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/histories/cv59-forrestal/forrestal-fire.html


12 posted on 07/01/2008 9:56:35 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: smoketree
Wait a second..wasn't the FOOTAGE of the WHOLE incident already on the History channel (or Discovery)?

Wait*Wait!! It was all CGI on those channels! ALL fake, kinda like a birth certificate (and hex code at the 24th byte *cough*)....

The left should keep this up; their pissing me off right into voting for Sen. McCain.

13 posted on 07/01/2008 9:57:52 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: freeplancer

I forgot to add that the reason so many people died is because there was a huge load of WWII left-over ordinance stored on deck at the time and the first blast put holes in all of the fire hoses


14 posted on 07/01/2008 9:58:33 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Doctor Raoul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I


15 posted on 07/01/2008 10:00:10 PM PDT by WildcatClan
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To: Doctor Raoul

COMPLETE AND TOTAL B.S.

The cause of the USS Forrestal fire had nothing to do with John McCain. A Zuni rocket launched accidentally from an F-4 (Phantom), NOT an A-4, and it came from the opposite side of the flight deck compared to where McCain was sitting in his A-4 readying for take-off. McCain’s A-4 was not the plane involved either in launching the Zuni rocket or getting hit by the Zuni rocket, but he was very close to the conflagration and easily could have lost his life. Many did perish in the ensuing fires, but for anyone to assert that John McCain bore any responsibility is completely contrary to the findings of extensive investigations and witness reports. These scumbags will not stop smearing anyone who doesn’t share their far-left derangement.


“At 10:52 A.M. on July 29, the second launch was being readied when a Zuni rocket accidentally fired from an F-4 Phantom parked on the starboard side of the flight deck aft of the island. The missile streaked across the deck into a 400 gallon belly fuel tank on a parked A-4D Skyhawk. The ruptured tank spew highly flammable JP-5 fuel onto the deck which ignited spreading flames over the flight deck under other fully loaded aircraft ready for launch. The ensuing fire caused ordinance to explode and other rockets to ignite. Spread by the wind, the flames engulfed the aft end of the stricken ship turning the flight deck into a blazing inferno.. Berthing spaces immediately below the flight deck became death traps for fifty men, while other crewmen were blown overboard by the explosion.”

http://www.forrestal.org/fidfacts/page13.htm


16 posted on 07/01/2008 10:01:10 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMA: "That's not the Wesley Clark I knew!")
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To: Michael Barnes

Even though there is video and a whole tv episode on it they still try to lie about it.
These people are psychotic.
Even a lawyer wouldn’t make such a blatent easily disprovable lie.


17 posted on 07/01/2008 10:03:17 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Oh, yeah. Everybody going through Damage Control school in the 70's got chapter and verse on the Forrestal. It was one of those cascades of events that you couldn't make worse if you tried.

McCain is lucky to be alive. The guy next to him made it to the flight deck and was killed when the first bomb cooked off. A Chief had the brass ones to try cooling it with a hand-held fire extinguisher and paid for it with his life. 134 guys lost that day.

18 posted on 07/01/2008 10:05:16 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Doctor Raoul
The left has no idea what the Swiftboat Veterans against J F Kerry movement was all about in the last election. They think it was a bunch of GOP Operatives posing as veterans telling lies about John Kerry's shining patriotic career in the Navy.

I believe that all of this crap we are starting to see and hear is their version of "SwiftBoating." They are claiming that:......... "Well they (GOP) did it to Kerry so we are going to do it to McCain!"

That is an exact quote of what I heard from a liberal on Monday.

19 posted on 07/01/2008 10:06:04 PM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: CindyDawg
His plane was hit?

His plane fired the rocket. This is a common danger in naval aviation, even today. There is so much high-power radar around, it can jump the ignition gap on a rocket motor, and start the motor.

There are electrical shunt clips that "safe" the motor, but they have to be removed before flight. Best practice is to then have the aircraft pointing to the side of the carrier, aimed at empty ocean. But once they start lining up for launching, your have some twitchy electrical circuits waiting for a stray electrical pulse, rather than the pilot pushing a button.

The rocket, a 2.75 FFAR, came from McCain's A-4, but it was shown to have been a freak accident, and he had nothing to do with it. It's just a lousy smear by swine who know better, but figure they can convince enough dummies to keep the libel circulating.

Oh, and accidental rocket firings still happen today, even after 40 years of technological improvements.


20 posted on 07/01/2008 10:07:19 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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