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Hashed out time and time again the past few weeks on FR. It may be very possible we are being scammed by Obama’s troops and at some point he will come forward with a certified-certified copy and make us all look foolish, full of tin-foil conspiracy theories, and right-wing nut cases. Of course, whispered community rumors about his birthplace and religion may hurt him, but the same-o, same-o here on FR doesn’t do anything for our credibility.

ON!,

NTSA!

This is getting silly.

Obama has produced a perfectly acceptable birth certifcate.

I can’t stand the guy, but this is ridiculous.

Obama is trying to lower the bar over what constitutes qualifications to the Presidency of the United States. The lowest possible bar he can set is meeting the Constitutional requirements for being a native born citizen. This is the standard we are now arguing over.

All additional qualifications of temprement, experience, ability, philosophy, corruptability and resume are being conveniently forgotten while we argue whether or not he is meets the Constitutional bar. Then when it is proven that he does, he will pretend that that eliminates any possible objection anybody might have to him being President of the United States.

So if he can’t produce his birth certificate, then he should be able to produce his naturalization records since he’d need those to run for the Senate, correct?

Certificates of Live Birth are NOT considered proof of citizenship in many states

Okay I gotta ask...what is considered proof of citizenship in those States?

Maybe Springsteen’s “Madame Marie” can tell us whether he’s “born in the USA”?

Oops, too late.

Got the following in an e-mail afew days ago. I’m not a lawyer or an expert on election oe citizenship law. I found it fascinating, but have no way of knowing if there’s anything to it...

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Subject: Obama May Be Illegal To Be Elected President!

This came from a USNA alumnus. It’ll be interesting to see how the media handle this...

Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone.

US Law very clearly states: ‘. . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16.’ Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen is a fact.

Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack Obama’s birth, but-after-age-16.

In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . . but that would disqualify him from holding the office.

The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.

Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had, rather than living in Indonesia. This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.

The blogger Doug Ross linked in your post seems to have identified a possible signature block on the copy of the certificate posted at Daily Kos.

If that is indeed the case, then the certificate does appear legitimate, having both a seal and a signature.

However, I continue to find it odd that the campaign did not simply offer the document for inspection by interested parties. All rumors would have ceased at that point. Now, because of stonewalling by the campaign, they've managed to create an issue that won't go away.

Sunday, June 29, 2008

Freedom of Information Act Request for Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

I have written and will mail on Monday two Freedom of Information Act requests to the State of Hawaii for copies of Barack Obama's birth certificate as per Larwyn's suggestion. Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs argues that there may be no problem with Mr. Obama's birth certificate, but the State of Hawaii and Mr. Obama have an ethical obligation to come clean on this matter.

Mark Bennett, Attorney General
Department of the Attorney General
State of Hawaii
425 Queen Street
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

Dear Mr. Bennett:

This is a freedom of information act request for the birth certificate of Barack Obama, born August 4, 1961. Because Mr. Obama is a public figure and because of the importance of this information to the public welfare the ordinary rules of confidentiality do not apply. I will be happy to pay your normal processing fee.

Sincerely,

Mitchell Langbert

Janice Okubo
Department of Health
State of Hawaii
1250 Punchbowl Street Room 326
Honolulu, Hawaii, 96813

Dear Ms. Okubo:

This is a freedom of information act request for the birth certificate of Barack Obama, born August 4, 1961. Because Mr. Obama is a public figure and because of the importance of this information to the public welfare the ordinary rules of confidentiality do not apply. I will be happy to pay your normal processing fee.

Sincerely,

Mitchell Langbert http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/06/freedom-of-information-act-request-for.html

Obama wants everyone to see him as having the highest of integrity. When there are questions about his past, we find he is hastily sweeping everything under the rug.

Judicial Watch is seeking: “Any and all public documents…resulting from Illinois State Senator Barack Obama’s years in the office (1997-2004) that the ISA [has] in its possession.” Judicial Watch filed its open records request on February 7, 2008, after public statements made by Obama regarding his Illinois State Senate records.

These records are going to be as difficult to extract as is a birth certificate document which will answer the simple question about his place of birth.

There are other deceptions about Obama’s past that the Obama Campaign Machine will put forth to hide an examination on the personal character question. The birth certificate question is an example of the continuous series of deceptions that have been going on since Obama entered the scene. It is an example of a fundamental flaw in his character—deceitfulness—that cannot be a quality for the one we trust in the highest office in the United States.

We cannot allow a candidate to continuously mislead the public, staging fraudulent events, and manipulation the facts of his past in order to slip into the Presidency.

ping of interest..

when Kos produced

That’s all you need to know that it’s a lie.

Look, NONE of this matters. The guy WILL be the nominee of the Democratic party. If you produced a ton of documents, the OB doctor, and a video of Obama being delivered in Mecca, he would still be the nominee. The amount of energy being wasted on this is amazing.

Mombasa, Kenya?
See http://www.gaywired.com/Article.cfm?ID=19252

Off topic...Empty Seats for Messiah Speech

RUSH: This is Chris Hernandez who is NBC Action News, Kansas City. When we played sound bites of Obama's political speech yesterday on patriotism in Independence, we listened to it, and it sounded like there was the usual Obama throng, correct? Thousands and thousands of people fainting, shrieking, throwing their underwear up there, going wacko. Not the case. Here's the report from Kansas City's NBC affiliate last night.

HERNANDEZ: There were a couple of hundred empty seats even though Obama's staff says all 1,000 tickets were given out in just two hours Saturday, and this was a much quieter crowd than at previous Obama events.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE OBAMA SUPPORTER: It was very quiet in there at one point. I felt like I was at church, almost, right before he came out.

HERNANDEZ: A member of Obama's staff tells me they didn't want to overbook and then have to turn people away, but apparently some people who got tickets Saturday didn't show up today. The quieter atmosphere may have also been because this was considered a more serious speech, and no political leaders came out to whip up the crowd before Obama started speaking.

RUSH: I didn't know that that was necessary. Political leaders whip up the crowd? Political leaders usually put 'em to sleep. I thought it was Obama that whipped up the crowd. I thought it was Obama that was The Messiah. I thought it was Obama who caused people to shriek and lose sense of their dignity and go nuts. Two hundred empty seats. They were giving them away all morning long. In a place that holds 1,000 people. So we would have never known this, we would have never known it, and outside of Kansas City nobody did know it until you just heard the Kansas City NBC report just now. That is another example of this program providing a much-needed public service, doing the job the Drive-By Media used to do but won't, i.e., tell you the truth.

I guess the assumption behind all this is that at some point the parents left the country.

For what reason? So that his mother could meet her husband's mother and father (who didn't want him to marry her) and maybe his other wife?

Presumably the father was taking classes through May, and by then the mother would have been six months along. Would the couple have made what would have been a very long trip in those days if she was that pregnant?

If it were the case that they went to British East Africa, could they have hidden that fact until now? Wouldn't somebody have noticed at the time, and might they remember it now?

1 minute satirical Obama video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR6b-kWncI4

Hurry before some diversity loving (RIGHT!) Obamaniac at YouTube pulls it.

Almost bigger than the birth certificate is whether he registers for the draft. If he did not, he is disqualified to be POTUS. Period. See: http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/01/selective-service-required-did-obama-register/