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Museum of London's Skeleton Key to the Bodies Under City's Streets
Times Online ^
| 06.28.2008
| Jack Malvern
Posted on 06/27/2008 4:02:52 PM PDT by Coffee200am
snip...Tens of thousands of skeletons that lie hidden beneath the streets, houses and offices of London have been revealed for the first time on a map, in a collaboration between the Museum of London and The Times.
snip...Another skeleton was found with a metal spike lodged in its spine. Its owner, a man who was buried in Smithfield, East London, in about 1350, was probably hit with an arrow or spear, but the attack did not kill him. He survived only to catch bubonic plague in his late thirties or early forties. Somehow the injury didn't cause an infection, Mr White said. The body has reacted by building bone around the projectile. He survived for months or possibly years. He was found in a large plot of land set aside for burying victims of the Black Death. It is not known why the man was attacked, but it is thought that he may have been a soldier in the Hundred Years War.
snip...At Christchurch in Spitalfields they found someone with smallpox scars in soft tissue. They dropped it and ran away. They sent it to one of the two laboratories in the world that can deal with smallpox. The labs said that smallpox spores were present, but not enough to be a danger. It is now routine to rebury unbreached lead-lined coffins without opening them in case the disease that killed the occupant is still a threat.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ggg; godsgravesglyphs; graves; london
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To: Coffee200am
Ok, they open up graves that have been buried of hundreds, if not thousands, of years and wonder why some germs might still be around? What idiots.
Ok, lets start a small pox epedemic in london by opening all these old graves!
What dumb as****.
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:13:30 PM PDT
by
calex59
To: patton
interesting, in a very creepy way....
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:18:38 PM PDT
by
leda
(don't forget the baby shoes)
To: leda
Life expectancy for folks in London during the Black Death was 16.
Think about that - you had kids at 12, buy the time they were 4, they were orphans.
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:22:28 PM PDT
by
patton
(cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
To: patton
pretty amazing that a 4 yr old orphan
actually lived to 16 then, isnt it?
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:24:39 PM PDT
by
leda
(don't forget the baby shoes)
To: leda
"She turned me into a newt".
"A newt?"
"I got better..."
To: leda
Not only thast the kid did, but that the kid went on to also become a mother or father at 12.
I wonder how many generations that lasted?
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:28:22 PM PDT
by
patton
(cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
To: patton
I don't think that's the way life expectancy is calculated. It's more a measure of how many died young. If a lot of people died in infancy, for example, it would lower the life expectancy. But that doesn't mean that the average person only lived 12 years; it just means that if you averaged out the lifespans of every person born, it would come out to be about 12 years.
It's a common misconception.
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:28:56 PM PDT
by
IronJack
(=)
To: Coffee200am
We bury our own with reverence and with the expectation that their remains will be undisturbed, yet we despoil the graves of our forebears with alacrity. I find this disturbing.
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:29:52 PM PDT
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Peregrine, patron saint of cancer patients, pray for us.)
To: calex59
Harvesting diabolical biological agents from frozen Arctic explorers who died of plague is a standard plot device in all kinds of thriller novels. I've got several of them myself in my pile of paperbacks.
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:31:31 PM PDT
by
Dumpster Baby
( They told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:34:24 PM PDT
by
kalee
(The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
To: IronJack
“But that doesn’t mean that the average person only lived 12 years; it just means that if you averaged out the lifespans of every person born, it would come out to be about 12 years.”
Care to think that one through again?
I understand what you are trying to say - that some died minutes after birth, and others lived to the ripe old age of 30, so it averages to 16.
But what you said is not what you think you said.
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:34:54 PM PDT
by
patton
(cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
To: calex59
Ok, they open up graves that have been buried of hundreds, if not thousands, of years and wonder why some germs might still be around? What idiots. Ok, lets start a small pox epedemic in london by opening all these old graves! What dumb as****. This qualifies for a "Hold muh Beer" alert.
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:45:15 PM PDT
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
To: IronJack
I always got into that argument with the lifespan of our customers (not their real life, but the time they were customers.) Some measured it in terms of how long “dead” customers had been with us. I always measured the average time that a current customer had been with us.
I always think the proper metric is something like a median lifespan—where half the people live longer, and half die earlier.
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posted on
06/27/2008 4:46:41 PM PDT
by
Vermont Lt
(I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
This qualifies for a "Hold muh Beer" alert. "Hold me ale."
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posted on
06/27/2008 5:00:38 PM PDT
by
SIDENET
(Hubba Hubba...)
To: patton
Actually, I said exactly what I meant. The average LIFESPAN might be 12 years, but that doesn’t mean the average PERSON only lived 12 years. The distinction is subtle, and whatever the limitations of the semantics, I think you know what I mean.
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posted on
06/27/2008 5:16:49 PM PDT
by
IronJack
(=)
To: IronJack
So, which person, in your calculus, didn’t have a lifespan?
If a person has a lifespan of 30 years, he has lived longer than average, no?
Clearly, the average PERSON did not.
Take your shoes off, count on your toes, maybe it will come to you.
Probably not.
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posted on
06/27/2008 5:26:32 PM PDT
by
patton
(cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
To: Coffee200am
Archaeologists exploring a graveyard at St Pancras stumbled across a coffin containing a mysterious set of bones. They were later identified as belonging to a walrus. An explanation for the animal's dignified burial has not yet surfaced. What? LOL
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posted on
06/27/2008 5:46:11 PM PDT
by
Charlespg
(Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
To: Charlespg
Headstone shaped like a “bukkit”?
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posted on
06/27/2008 5:57:03 PM PDT
by
ExGeeEye
(I've been waiting since 11/04/79 for us (US) to do something about Iran.)
To: Coffee200am
“The labs said that smallpox spores were present...”
How can we survive against germs like that?
Unbelievable.
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posted on
06/27/2008 5:59:55 PM PDT
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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