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Creationist Bill Signed by Jindal
LGF ^ | June 27, 2008

Posted on 06/27/2008 2:04:21 PM PDT by EveningStar

Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal has signed a stealth creationist bill into law, and American educational standards take a huge step backward: Science law could set tone for Jindal.

The creationist front group called the Discovery Institute is quietly crowing, and maintaining the fiction that the bill is not religiously-based.

(Excerpt) Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bobbyjindal; churchandstate; crevo; education; jindal; mythology
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To: WVKayaker
You're right. I tag some people as atheist. I also call some cultists! I guess EVO's could fit that category, too.

We know that. The confusion seems to be with people assuming it actually has anything to do with theology. It just means "I don't like you.".

361 posted on 06/29/2008 10:36:09 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
We know that. The confusion seems to be with people assuming it actually has anything to do with theology. It just means "I don't like you.".

You seem to be the only one confused! When you said "I know that"...you evidently didn't!

Atheists are adamant in their rejection of God, or even the mention of His Name. Many atheists are even foolish enough to think they have all the knowledge to be possessed. But, to use the broadest brush, most atheists just don't like Christian people... and God is the reason!

To an atheist, it is science that holds the answers. But, to those of us with faith in a Living God, we know Who holds the keys!

I will pray that your hostility towards God will not keep you separated from Him. The results could really be hell...

362 posted on 06/29/2008 10:56:55 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker
Atheists are adamant in their rejection of God, or even the mention of His Name.

Indeed.

Now, if you go over to the Religion forum you'll find many people who don't believe in the YEC interpretaion of Genesis, but adamantly profess a belief it God. A lot of them believe that evolution did happen. You don't seem willing to count them as atheists, and attack them for it, and don't really seem to consider them athiests at all. You certainly don't seem to require having someone explicitly declare their rejection of God to apply that label. Whatever meaning you're assigning to the word "atheist" doesn't seem to be based in theology. It is applied and used as a general perjorative.

363 posted on 06/29/2008 11:21:15 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Why do you like straw so much? You make all your snide remarks directing me to another thread. You keep your incessant "I'm right, and you're just a stupid, ignorant theist..." rants, as if when you say it enough, it will come to pass.

Try "Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm". It works for some people...

364 posted on 06/29/2008 11:46:38 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: tacticalogic

You appear to making up your own definitions again, so I thought I would help you along your road...

From: Atheism: an introduction to Atheism.

“What is atheism?”

Atheism is characterized by an absence of belief in the existence of gods. This absence of belief generally comes about either through deliberate choice, or from an inherent inability to believe religious teachings which seem literally incredible. It is not a lack of belief born out of simple ignorance of religious teachings.

Some atheists go beyond a mere absence of belief in gods: they actively believe that particular gods, or all gods, do not exist. Just lacking belief in Gods is often referred to as the “weak atheist” position; whereas believing that gods do not (or cannot) exist is known as “strong atheism.”

Regarding people who have never been exposed to the concept of ‘god’: Whether they are ‘atheists’ or not is a matter of debate. Since you’re unlikely to meet anyone who has never encountered religion, it’s not a very important debate...

It is important, however, to note the difference between the strong and weak atheist positions. “Weak atheism” is simple skepticism; disbelief in the existence of God. “Strong atheism” is an explicitly held belief that God does not exist. Please do not fall into the trap of assuming that all atheists are “strong atheists.” There is a qualitative difference in the “strong” and “weak” positions; it’s not just a matter of degree.

Some atheists believe in the nonexistence of all Gods; others limit their atheism to specific Gods, such as the Christian God, rather than making flat-out denials.

-http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/intro.html


365 posted on 06/29/2008 11:55:04 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Stultis

You just need to read a little further in his work.


366 posted on 06/29/2008 12:35:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: allmendream

Its not just the earth and the sun; its the whole universe.
Changing the center does not change any of the dynamics. (I know, its just a bit too much for your little mind)


367 posted on 06/29/2008 12:38:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: WVKayaker

If you want to argue about theology, let’s take it over to the religion forum. If you don’t want to do that then your theology sucks.


368 posted on 06/29/2008 12:40:00 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: jwalsh07; antiRepublicrat
"The point was to illustrate the irrationality of using Pi as an attack on the Bible."

The Bible is good on Pi. The masoretic text has the circumference of the laver at 31 5/12 cubits. This makes it the most accurate rendition of Pi until the 19th century, and sufficiently accurate for most machine work.

Check in to Chuck Missler's web site to find some really mind boggling stuff on the Bible and Pi. In Genesis, Pi is ELS coded through the entire text, accurate to several hundred decimal places. (who knows why)

369 posted on 06/29/2008 12:46:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: tacticalogic
If you want to argue about theology, let’s take it over to the religion forum. If you don’t want to do that then your theology sucks.

This thread is the proper place to have this discussion, in case you didn't notice the topic! Are you afraid that someone might be looking?

My dog, Spot!

370 posted on 06/29/2008 12:47:43 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker
Try "Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm". It works for some people...

"Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm".

Nope. I still don't agree with you.

371 posted on 06/29/2008 12:48:46 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; WVKayaker
"Never an explaination of why it is a strawman"

Because it is a deliberate misrepresentation of the opponent's original point.

372 posted on 06/29/2008 12:49:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: WVKayaker
This thread is the proper place to have this discussion,

On the terms you want to have it, yes. It sure as hell isn't appropriate as a matter of serious theology.

373 posted on 06/29/2008 12:50:43 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: PORD
we just don’t bring on the debate that gives both sides adequate and fair opportunity to present their case.

The creationists/IDers don't show up.

It's called science.

You participate by publishing. Your results are then discussed by people competent in the field. That's where the creationists opt out. They want their 'arguments' judged by fellow creationists.

Barring that they want the debate in a high school classroom where, in reality, nobody is qualified.

374 posted on 06/29/2008 12:54:00 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: tacticalogic
On the terms you want to have it, yes. It sure as hell isn't appropriate as a matter of serious theology.

Do you believe in God? Any god will do...

375 posted on 06/29/2008 12:54:21 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Because it is a deliberate misrepresentation of the opponent's original point.

Or the claim itself is a strawman.

376 posted on 06/29/2008 12:56:01 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: WVKayaker

Yes.


377 posted on 06/29/2008 12:56:30 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Dinsdale
It's called science.

No. it's the Theory of Evolution being discussed. It is a pretender trying to gain acceptance as science. Just because many learned people accept it's premises, does not make it the truth.

For further research, see also: Man-made Global Warming; moon is made of green cheese; "I'll respect you in the morning"...

My dog, Spot!

378 posted on 06/29/2008 1:01:43 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Now you’re going all Da Vinci Code and National Treasure on me.


379 posted on 06/29/2008 1:12:06 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: WVKayaker
It is a pretender trying to gain acceptance as science.

Trying? It achieved that around a century ago.

Just because many learned people accept it's premises, does not make it the truth.

I see a glimmer of hope for you there. "Accept it's [sic] premises" is correct, as that's what you do in science. But "truth" has nothing to do with the subject of science.

380 posted on 06/29/2008 1:14:42 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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