Posted on 06/25/2008 8:52:46 AM PDT by pissant
Is Barack Obama a United States citizen, and is he eligible to run for President of the United States, or did he present a forged government document to verify a citizenship he does not possess? For a few weeks now these questions have been swirling around the internet. The questions have become so prominent that Obama addressed the issue on his Fight the Smears website. Of course, in typical Obama fashion it is becoming clear that nothing is as it seems.
His site says the following:
The truth about Baracks birth certificate
Lie: Obama Is Not a Natural Born Citizen
Truth: Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959. Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
There it is, the Certification of Live Birth. Case closed. Or is it? Two sources have raised what has proven to be very interesting, and troubling questions. Polarik, a blogger from Townhall.com, and the israelinsider, have both posted compelling evidence that can no longer be ignored, or brushed off as ridiculous.
Friday, June 20, 2008, Polarik, who claims to have extensive experience in the world of computers, printers, and typewriters, wrote given a set of printed letters, I can discern what kind of device made them. Printer output is quite different from the text created by a graphics program, and even if a document looks official, it may not be. He goes on to claim that anyone could have produced this document, and then proceeds to point out every flaw imaginable with this alleged certificate. Because his article is so detailed, and technical, I advise my readers to follow the link and read it for yourself. Have no fear. He has visuals to help you make sense of it.
Yesterday morning I read an article in the Israelinsider, written by Reuven Koret. Korets article eliminates any lingering question as to whether or not the Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery/fake.
Koret begins his article by linking to Photobucket, an image gathering website, where millions upload images to share with others, or post in various places such as websites, etc. It shows variations of the same Certificate of Live Birth presented by the Obama camp. One has Obamas birthplace listed as Antarctica, while another shows one issued by the government of North Korea. This certainly lends credibility to Polariks argument that the Certificate of Live Birth was created by some sort of computer program, that anyone can use.
According to Koret, Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health made clear that no birth certification, or certification of live birth is transmitted electronically, and that all certificates of live birth contain an embossed seal and registrars signature on the back of the document.
He then compares the 1961 Certification of Live Birth, presented as authentic on the Obama website, to one certifying the Hawaiian birth of a Patricia Decosta. The similarities and differences are quite noticeable.
Both contain a green bamboo background, though one is noticeably darker. Both contain borders that are noticeably different. Obamas is green, and Decostas is black. Polarik did a fabulous job of pointing out the obvious flaws on the border of Obamas alleged certificate.
The most compelling and disturbing items of note are the lack of an embossed seal and the registrars signature, on the copy being presented by Obama. Decostas seal, even faded with time is quite prominent, as is the registrars signature that bleeds through to the front of the document. The lack of these two items makes it clear that the copy presented by Obama is in fact a fake.
This raises many more questions and concerns. Why would Obama knowingly lie, and present a forged government document as official? Why does Obama refuse to present his real birth certificate, for inspection the actual piece of paper that can be handled by reporters? Is Barack Obama a citizen of the United States? Is he eligible for the highest office of this great nation? Lastly, what laws has Obama and his camp broken by knowingly presenting a forged government document?
Bump for later.
Then this election would literally become a coup.
I didn’t say it didn’t “matter to me”. I said it was likely a red herring and not going to lead anywhere. There is a difference. It is an opinion, just like yours.
It is also called strategy. And I happen to think this will only lead down a road to little benefit. You disagree. That is why we live in America.
Good Luck with it.
They tried in 2000. And in their derangement, they believe we did it to them.
It's the f**king Constitution....and by God it's STILL the Constitution.
There is no waiving of it, period, end of story......and the country and MSM will simply have to deal with it.
“Speculation that BHO was not born in Hawaii. Look to Canada or possibly Kenya.”
I’ll bet Mr. Obama’s _grandmother_ knows exactly where he was born.
And that is exactly why she is being kept totally incommunicado.
So that she can’t be asked this question, with the possibility that she might blurt out the truth.
- John
You don’t think they’d try it? They’d take a poll: Should Obama be allowed to run. They would dismiss it a small rule change.
I can easily believe he would do it, all it would take is arrogance and he has more than enough of that. I think he is a very deceitful man, and if he is elected President this country is in for very tough times ahead.
But it is not signed and sealed.
It is simply a piece of paper not valid for any legal standing unless there is a seal and signature stating it is a verified copy.
I agree that the birth certificate looks like a forgery.
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because it is NOT a birth certificate. It is a paper that says that such a certificate exists for the names and date denoted. Worrying about this paper is really time wasted.
Did you get any meaning at all from the rest of my post?
But, why even keep the issue alive if there is real birth certificate that proves Obama to be an American citizen? Do you believe it’s just to distract his “enemies” from other issues. His enemies are capable ot attacking him from many different directions, including the birth certificate questions.
So, why even allow the questions to continue if he can just produce a real copy of the certificate?
In what respect do you suppose that I disagreed with what you have posted? Others talked about Congressional and Senatorial qualifications. I did not.
I think you know what I mean. Obama said he joined Trinity and that he is a Christian. Not a Muslim.
I say prove it. Prove you’re a ‘Christian’ and not a Muslim. Where’s your proof of baptism?
Truth is; he can’t provide proof. He’s still a Muslim. He joined a ‘Christian’ church for political expediency. Trinity welcomes Muslims.
Pwotecing Bwarry, are we?
I want to prove he lied about being a Christian. If he is, and not a Muslim, there should be a record of baptism.
I want prove he lied when he said he was a Christian, and not Muslim. If he’s a Christian, then there will be a certificate of baptism.
Pwotecing Bwarry, are we?
Instead of jumping in and making assumptions about people you don’t know- you might want to wait til you’ve been here awhile.
And to answer your impertinent question- no, I’m not protecting Obama, I’m trying to get some perspective on this whole birth certificate mess.
Whether or not he does or doesn’t have a baptism certificate proves nothing. I expect you’d find members of the Third Reich could provide baptism certificates.
I think the idea that he was not born in Hawaii is weird, a waste of time for people to worry about it, and a cause of titillation in the Obama camp by whoever is maintaining the website where this paper is posted.
I don’t think anyone has to show a birth certificate to the public at large.
I don’t recall “the rest of your post.” Sorry.
I am finished with this thread.
Now Kerry’s military records, his DD-214 is another story, because he was campaigning on his record, which his ‘swift boat’ mates took issue with. He should have definitely been forthcoming with them.
Agreeing with you and just adding in the qualifications for good measure. Sorry if it came out otherwise. I think it’s important that folks understand the qualifications their elected officials must meet as do you.
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