Birth Certificate - Email to Hawaii DOH

5/24/08 | HMV

[Hillary'sMoralVoid]

Today I pulled the image of the birth certificate from the Obama website and called the Department of Health in Hawaii and got an email address and sent the birth certificate as an attachment.

I asked them if this image was of a valid, authentic birth certificate. I will let you know their response.

I think we're treating this a bit too lightly, there are many unanswered questions with huge implications, not the least of which is the trustworthiness of the candidate. If DOH says definitively that some fields were manipulated, the logical question would by why? It seems there are many areas of concern, even a question about the marital status of his mother and father.

Again, I will let you know their answers.

[weegee]

And Kerry never HAS released his 180 form and his diary to public scrutiny. Showing them privately to a Boston Glob reporter does not count.

The Boston Glob ran an article about some discredited PORN site photos as “evidence” of US troops raping Iraqi women. The photos had already been proven to be frauds. An Egyptian newspaper had already apologized. But the Glob presented it as fact.

Just because the Rats may be “laughing” about not releasing paperwork doesn't mean that they aren't still crooks pushing candidates who are INELIGIBLE for the White House (Kerry too as a traitor was ineligible for the office).

[Stentor]

He must have a passport.

[Nasher]

Just viewed this video where the point is brought up that the messiah might not be a naturalized U.S. citizen. This would legally disqualify him from running for POTUS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXNLLAk9gek&NR=1

[Wil H]

I wouldn’t expect a reply. I think they would have acted on their own by now if they intended to.

Then we should swamp them with questions about this until they realize it aint going away until they answer satisfactorily.

[Red Steel]

With what I’ve seen from the Dems, it’s possible.

[txhurl]

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[varina davis]

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[angelsonmyside]

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[nikos1121]

“Senator Obama, there has been speculation from informed sources that the birth certificate posted on your website is a fake and not an official document issued by the State of Hawaii. When one searches public archives there is no record of you being born in Hawaii or of a marriage between your parents. In addition, two websites list two different hospitals as your hospital of birth. People are asking if you indeed were born here or in Kenya. Would you be willing to release your original birth certificate and hospital records to lay these malicious rumors to rest?”

[nikos1121]

I’ve casually researched Obama’s birth history over the past several days. As you know it’s largely taken from his own auto-bio and has never been corroborated by anyone independently.

Here’s what I and others have found:

1. TWO HOSPITALS LISTED AS BEING WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN

I googled “Obama’s birthplace” and got the following:
From Wikipedia

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama )

Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr., of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kansas.

COMMENT:This is different from what other sites list including Obama friendly sites. They state that OBAMA was born at Queen’s Medical Center.

( see:http://www.barackobamaismyhomeboy.com/biography )

ALSO: Kapiolani Hospital did not open until 1989 although the Hospital for women and children was open at the time.

This discrepancy in my mind is interesting BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE NO DISCREPANCY.

2. NO RECORD OF BIRTH OR MARRIAGE OF PARENTS.

I searched via the pay investigative site Ancestry.com for Barry or Barack Obama, or Barry or Barack Dunham or Stanley Ann Dunham etc. and keyed in also Aug 4, 1961 and Hawaii, and Honolulu etc. and came up with no record of a birth or marriage. Others have checked this through similar but different searches and also found nothing.

3. BIRTH CERTIFICATE CLEARLY A FORGERY

The Birth Certificate posted on the Obama website and Daily Kos appears to be a forgery.

Please see: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2034411/posts

and

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2034476/posts

and this posting of yours

http://beta.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2035307,1

4. NO EYE WITNESSES OF BIRTH

There have been no eye witnesses of Obama’s birth from the hospital. No nurse or doctor coming forth to recall caring for the mother or child.

5. KENYAN RELATIVES HAVE TOLD REPORTERS THAT HE WAS BORN IN KENYA

It has been reported that Kenyan relatives initially had said that Obama was born there but are silent about this now.

Please see: http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-birth-circumstances-review.html

6. GRANDMOTHER IS KEPT AWAY FROM MEDIA

The grandmother has been kept away from the MSM perhaps because she knows the truth about Obama’s birth and parents marital status.

Please see: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2034644/posts

This man is running for the presidency of the United States. It seems fair and proper that the public knows his birth history and pedigree.

[Beckwith]

Obama was registered as a citizen of Indonesia at two schools in Jakarta - - does he still have Indonesian citizenship.

[AmericaUnited]

Obama’s says “Date Filed with Registrar”. All the legit ones say “Date ACCEPTED by State Registrar”.

As was pointed out in another thread, this language is VERY SIGNIFICANT!!! When a reputable organization such as a hospital submits a birth certificate, the state automatically accepts it as good. If a “questionable”/”nonofficial” entity submits one, they just say “Filed”.

So the $64,000 question is why was Obama’s not automatically accepted. Was it privately submitted? Does this shed light on why there are two different claims as to which hospital he was born at? If he was born at either one, they would have submitted the BC and it would have been accepted.

[AmericaUnited]

See #32

[AmericaUnited]

There is something fishy about the balcked out certifcate #, since all legit ones show it is just “151 YYYY - NNNNNN” where NNNNNN is the number of births at that point in the year, and YYYY is the year.

So if Obama was the 8000th birth filed in 1961, his number would be 151 1961-008000

[RipSawyer]

There can be no doubt the document on the internet is invalid, it says at the bottom that any alteration invalidates it and the serial number has been blocked out. The real question is does a valid document exist somewhere which can be produced at the opportune moment to make Obama come out smelling like a rose and if not will anyone who matters pay any attention. If I had to bet I would say that Obama is NOT a native born American citizen and probably not a citizen at all but that is just my opinion.

[Salamander]

You’d be amazed at what can be hidden if no one really bothers to look.

I know a guy who *was* legally married and then got divorced.

He and his shack-up have been using photo copies of that “whited-out” marriage license with the shack-up’s name filled in over the whited-out real name for over 30 years as “proof of marriage” for everything from school records to tax filing to bank loans.

For whatever reason, no one the photocopy has been presented to has ever questioned it.

You’d think banks and the IRS, especially would insist they provide a new replacement copy obtained from the originating court house but they never have.

[and it’s stupid on their part because MD recognizes no “common law marriages”]

As a contrast, when I got married, I had to provide an original an SS# card, birth certificate and marriage license before I was allowed onto hubby’s health insurance policy.

[spotbust1]

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[jazzlite]

...”This man is running for the presidency of the United States. It seems fair and proper that the public knows his birth history and pedigree”...

You know, I doubt that this population, as uninformed as it now is and as disrespectful of history and true facts, would give two hoots. We are being run by celebrity and youth and we run a high risk of being taken over by those who hate us. Youth, charisma, looking sexy, riches, partying, being a part of the “in” crowd are what matter. Young people in their rebellious phase latch on to these things, only to learn later that they do not satisfy and even, that they destroy lives. As I read about a possible recession this a.m. and certainly, gas and food prices, inflation, the housing crisis, and OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, with hardly a peep from the other side, I weep and pray that God will awaken our great nation to truth, a real “love thy neighbor” attitude, and to a wisdom which has been lost because of corruption in our institutions for the sake of personal power and ambition. I still do have that “hope” which Obama mentions so often but my “hope” is that we will see God act in a way which will correct some of this.

[Always Right]

Interesting, the real one has a signature stamp and seal stamp bleeding through from the back. Obama’s only has a date stamp that is bleeding through.