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Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen
Israeli Insider ^ | 6/24/08 | Reuben Korvet

Posted on 06/24/2008 1:01:41 PM PDT by pissant

t is now a virtual certainty that the "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign as authentic is a photoshopped fake.

The image, purporting to come from the Hawaii Department of Health, has been the subject of intense skepticism in the blogosphere in the past two weeks.

It has become even more suspect with the revelation that variations of the certificate image were posted on the Photobucket image aggregation website -- including one listing the location of Obama's birth as Antarctica, one with the certificate supposedly issued by the government of North Korea, and another including a purported photo of baby Barack -- one of which has a "photo taken" time-stamp just two minutes before the article and accompanying image was posted on the left-wing Daily Kos blog.

That strongly suggests that Daily Kos obtained the image from Photobucket, not the State of Hawaii, the Obama family, or the Obama campaign. Photobucket is not known as a credible supplier of official vital records for any of the fifty states, and the liberties that other Photoshoppers took with the certificates confirms this.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barackobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; dailykos; democrats; elections; nobama08; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: All

Here’s another possibility ...

If his mother needed to reside in the U.S. for five years before his birth, did Hawaii “count” when it was a territory or only after it became a state in 1959?

Just curious ...


161 posted on 06/24/2008 2:05:49 PM PDT by DNME ("When small men cast long shadows, the sun is about to set.")
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To: Tarpon
Why would anyone hide their birth certificate, unless it told a tale they didn’t want told ...

Perhaps this caper involves 2 theories floating around the Internet concerning Barry's birth: that he was not born in the US (and hence why he will not go to Iraq) AND that he is the Antichrist.

Maybe his mother is listed as a jackal on his official birth certificate. ;) /sarcasm off

162 posted on 06/24/2008 2:06:33 PM PDT by Heartland Mom (Build the fence, secure our borders, deport illegals - Protect our sovereignty!)
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To: fireforeffect; All
While interesting, his birth certificate is not that important.

You could not be more dead wrong! Obama has certified to the world that this is a genuine document. IF ANY, REPEAT, ANY INFORMATION on it has been altered, OR, the information is exactly what WOULD have printed on an official copy but THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT ONE, IT IS A MONSTER DECEIT/FRAUD!

It is the coverup that always brings people down.

163 posted on 06/24/2008 2:06:40 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AppyPappy

OK I see at this address it has a better image.


164 posted on 06/24/2008 2:06:42 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: riverdawg
“If Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, he is a *natural-born* U.S. citizen ...”

Fixed it.

165 posted on 06/24/2008 2:06:56 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: massgopguy
Thank you for saying that! I've been reminding people of that ever since Obama became a Senator.

-PJ

166 posted on 06/24/2008 2:07:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: AppyPappy
This document is from the Barack Obama campaign website. If it is a forgery, that’s a really big deal.

Exactly! You do get it.

167 posted on 06/24/2008 2:07:23 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: cdga5for4

Mine too. It’s photocopy of the original. I think my foot prints are on it too.

What he has is what you get that basically confirms that you were born in the place you say you were so you can get a passport.

I suspect that he was born in Kenya and obtained a birth certificate when he was brought to the USA.

Alot of people are surmising that he may or may NOT be a natural born citizen. I would say it’s debatable, but from what I’m seeing for 1961, the mother would have had to reside in the USA a certain length of time and over the age of 14 or 15. I don’t have that in front of me.

This is going to get ugly real fast, I can feel it. The first time he’s asked will really be the key on where it goes. And if he lies, (actually he did lie as his autobio says he was born here, the media will zero in on him.

I think the posturing the past few days is in anticipation of this, as he will say that they are attacking him because he’s black.

This could be fastest freefall since Tom Eggleton.


168 posted on 06/24/2008 2:08:00 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: cdga5for4

Mine too. It’s photocopy of the original. I think my foot prints are on it too.

What he has is what you get that basically confirms that you were born in the place you say you were so you can get a passport.

I suspect that he was born in Kenya and obtained a birth certificate when he was brought to the USA.

Alot of people are surmising that he may or may NOT be a natural born citizen. I would say it’s debatable, but from what I’m seeing for 1961, the mother would have had to reside in the USA a certain length of time and over the age of 14 or 15. I don’t have that in front of me.

This is going to get ugly real fast, I can feel it. The first time he’s asked will really be the key on where it goes. And if he lies, (actually he did lie as his autobio says he was born here, the media will zero in on him.

I think the posturing the past few days is in anticipation of this, as he will say that they are attacking him because he’s black.

This could be fastest freefall since Tom Eggleton.


169 posted on 06/24/2008 2:08:02 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: pissant
including one listing the location of Obama's birth as Antarctica, one with the certificate supposedly issued by the government of North Korea, and another including a purported photo of baby Barack

Someone please, please, please tell me where I can find these. I need a good laugh today.

170 posted on 06/24/2008 2:08:17 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: Jim Noble

Actually Obama’s name will be on the ballot. Once the popular vote is certified in each State the candidate with the majority vote wins the electors in the State. The candidates name is on the ballot his name just represents the electors.


171 posted on 06/24/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: DNME

This (his mother’s length of residency in the U.S) is relevant only if he was born not in Hawaii but outside of the U.S.


172 posted on 06/24/2008 2:10:27 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: combat_boots

You’re right and that was frankly wrong, and afterwards he was a shoe in for the Senate.

I say that we all need to send this to the various news outlets. I’ve sent this to Daily Kos, Hillary, Michelle Malkin, Geraghty of RRO, Hannity, and the RNC. Thus far no response except from Geraghty who said he didn’t have time to follow it, but didn’t think it would effect his eligibility.


173 posted on 06/24/2008 2:11:16 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: nikos1121

To play devil’s advocate, it might be that the official stamp was photoshopped out of the released version of the document because of some regulation against reproducing the seal.


174 posted on 06/24/2008 2:11:39 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: rwa265

It would rank as one of my ten top wishes in life if BOTH O-scum-a and McManiac were disqualified. Maybe even top five.


175 posted on 06/24/2008 2:12:45 PM PDT by papasmurf
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To: pissant
his parents may not have been married

According to what I have read, his parents were not "legally" married as his father was still married to his first wife (who was in Kenya) when he married Obama's mother. However, that isn't really relevant to the question of his eligibility.

176 posted on 06/24/2008 2:13:20 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: iopscusa

I can feel it, something is up. I think this will be equal to or surpass Rather Gate and Kerry Swiftboats.

I predict that an enterprising reporter will confront him on this and he will duck it.


177 posted on 06/24/2008 2:14:05 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: Shermy
But I got dibs on that interpretation.

Who am I to doubt The Great Shermy?

That's certainly a plausible explanation.

Some clerk made it, passed it to the Obama people.

More plausible, though, if the clerk passed it to the Kos people.

Wouldn't the Obama people have the good sense to ask for a certified copy, so that there was no question about its authenticity?

Indeed, that's the only suspicious aspect of this affair. At this stage, what's their reason for not producing a certified copy?

178 posted on 06/24/2008 2:14:27 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Check his mothers passport records for the dates she claims she is in hawaii.

Not quite sure how to break this to you, but you don't need a visa or a passport to go to Hawaii. Not now. Not in 1961.

Either the original poster conveyed his point poorly or you misread his point.

If Stanley Ann Dunham's passport records show her out of the country at the time of Barack's birth she could not have been in Hawaii. That I believe is what the poster was attempting to say.

179 posted on 06/24/2008 2:14:34 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks for the compliment. I’ll see what I can find .


180 posted on 06/24/2008 2:14:55 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (ISLAM IS THE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST, DIRECTED BY SATAN AND HIS FALLEN MINIONS.)
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