[freespirited]

This is a follow-up by the graphics guy who started this debate.

[Perdogg]

ibtz

[devane617]

...it’s still a non issue...

[Bobalu]

The birth certificate thing does not concern me.
The only reason they made the rule that only native born Americans could become president was to keep members of the British Royal family from trying to run.

The fact that he is a Marxist is what concerns me.

[Hillary'sMoralVoid]

NOW IS THE TIME TO PUT THIS OUT ON DAILY KOS. MAKE THEM FORCE OBAMA’S HAND. IF NOTHING ELSE, INTIMIDATE THEM ABOUT THEIR CANDIDATE’S HONESTY.

[BreitbartSentMe]

This whole thing is very interested. One thing I didn't see remarked upon is that the border in the dKos version is somewhat transparent; that is you can see the green/white pattern on the ‘paper’ faintly through the ‘border’. On the real one, the border is opaque, you cannot make out any details of the paper showing through.

Curiouser and curiouser...

[Bubbette]

The only “answer” I have for the differences is that there are 30 years between the two documents. It would be extremely helpful to find another birth document from the 1960’s. There are many things about BO that are a cause for concern.

[jveritas]

Another “Buckhead” wannabe. Guys you need to give up this stupidity and focus on Obama the defeatist and Obama the socialist. Stupidity like this generates sympathy to Obama. Do you really believe that Obama is not a natural born US citizen? Are you that stupid people. The man has been running for elections for 14 years including a Senate race and the most competitive democrat primary race in decades and against the Clintons, if there is anything to this stupidity that you people are publishing and questioning Obama US citizenship then the Clintons and many people before them would have used it against Obama.

[ikka]

All good points.

However, we already know now, that Obama is an illegitimate child, because his father was married back in Africa. Thus the marriage to Miss Dunham was not valid.

[NoobRep]

Democrats-see no evil, hear no evil. Let's face it, if Osama is Teflon proof against a racist jackleg like Racist Wright, nobody will care much about the fact that he's not a true citizen of this country. The loony left is only interested in putting a communist in power and achieving Stalinist rule.

[Mr. Lucky]

My guess would be that Hawaii law doesn’t specify either the background appearance or the type style for use in a “Certificate of Live Birth”, but rather only the substantive information to be stated on the face of the certificate. Different printers and different purchase lots of the form would be expected.

[Cheburashka]

You can't tell whether a hard copy is genuine by examining a jpg. If you want to know if the BC is genuine you have to examine the hard copy itself.

[ClearCase_guy]

The use of fake documents by the Obama campaign should send up all kinds of red flags. He wouldn't have this out there if the alternative were harmless.

I think people are very wrong to see this as a non-issue.

[Migraine]

Sorry, but even Miss Decosta’s certificate is NOT ORIGINAL. It is not 1930s vintage. No way. There was no “arial” font back in those days, certainly no “laser”, as referenced lower-left margin. The term “laser” did not even exist back then.

Too bad. I do believe Baraq’s certificate to be a forgery. It needs, however, to be proven some other way.

[varon]

So, what is the dispute that is being resolved here? That Obama was not a Live Birth?

[wastedpotential]

This seems like a reach to me, the Clintons would have smoked this out if it were true.

[Kirkwood]

Hilarious.

[ValerieTexas]

1930?
Hawaii wasn’t even a state in 1930.
It was in 1961.
I’m sure everything “official” changed after that

[SE Mom]

I haven’t followed this as closely as many- but with all the talk about the comparisons between the two types of paper I’m wondering if the background might be similar-but different from 1930 to 1961?

Obviously it’s not the SAME- but perhaps the state changed the background over the years?

[lilylangtree]

I’ve gotta forward this on to some non-freepers. Thank you.

[ReleaseTheHounds]

I worry about the 31 year difference between these two documents. I didn’t see that addressed nor acknowledged.