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Muslim refuses shake, loses prize
Timesonline.co.uk ^ | June 22, 2008 | Damien Foley and Mark Tighe

Posted on 06/22/2008 6:42:50 PM PDT by forkinsocket

A Muslim asylum seeker lost out on an award for volunteer work after indicating that he would not shake hands with the woman who was to present him with the prize.

Alinoor Ahmed Sheikh, a Somali based in an asylum hostel in Tralee, was to have been honoured for his work raising funds for Amnesty International at a ceremony last Thursday organised by the Africa Centre in Dublin. The event was designed to highlight the positive work done by refugees and asylum seekers in Irish communities.

Five minutes before Benedicta Attoh, a member of the National Consultative Committee on Racism and Interculturalism, was due to present the award she was told not to call out Sheikh’s name. “The judges had decided that someone else should get the award,” said Attoh, chairwoman of the Africa Centre’s board.

Attoh did not find out the reason why until she read in Metro Eireann on Friday that his name had been removed because of his refusal to shake hands with women. Sheikh told the newspaper that he had been assured his request not to shake a female presenter’s hand would be accommodated because it was based on his religious beliefs.

His certificate was presented to Therese Elumelu, who was not present, with Sheikh’s name crossed out.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: alinoor; alinoorahmedsheikh; dublin; ireland; islam; muslim; muslims; muslimsexism; mysogynist; prize; sexistmuslim; shake; sheikh; somalia
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To: Gumdrop

“This man is a Muslim mysogynist.”

that’s really redundant, isn’t it?

Hey, I’m still new here and not used to such high intelligence levels as are on this board! I love it, but still sorting out which posts are serious and which are subtly sarcastic - so go easy on me, alright? :-)))))))))))))


21 posted on 06/22/2008 7:21:42 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Keith in Iowa

From the Comments section of the Sunday Times:
Hey lads at least Muslim men have chivalry towards women, the rest of the men in the west are like sex maniacs. Don’t believe go look at rape stats.

It’s a paradox that society calls muslims backwards when just last century white women got rights by hunger strikes and blacks were beaten to death!
Abdullah, Dublin, Ireland.

I want to know what Abdullah’s dumb ass is doing in Ireland ????????


22 posted on 06/22/2008 7:23:25 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: BenLurkin
They may not stoop to shake a female's hand, but they will not hesitate in raping a girl prior to a honor killing or any female which might be in a prison which they work.

Goats and sheep are also prone to be their sex targets. I do not know if the will shake hands with these animals even through I have lived in both Iran and Saudi Arabia.

23 posted on 06/22/2008 7:24:14 PM PDT by CHEE (ROCK STEADY!)
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To: BenLurkin

“I’ve never met a man or woman who refused to shake hands when introduced — and if they did it would be an insult.”

Howard Hughes (and Howie Mandel) wouldn’t/don’t shake hands. But there were/are reasons for that :-))))))))))))


24 posted on 06/22/2008 7:25:11 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: goldstategop

>>>Some people have religious objections to any form of intimate conduct with an unrelated woman.

Then don’t go to societies where such conduct (ohmygoshhowshameful) as shaking hands is not considered basis for an “honor” killing, or such other stupid belief.

(Yeah, call me intolerant. Some things are not subject to the shilly-shallying of relligious viewpoint.)

If you’re a muslim who cannot be in close proximity with “strange” women, then go home. If you can’t pick up dogs in your taxi, then don’t drive a taxi. if you can’t ring up a customer’s pork purchase, then don’t work in a grocery. If you don’t like the fact that you might have to treat a women with some shred of respect or decency, then get lost.

I’m sick of this idiocy!


25 posted on 06/22/2008 7:26:20 PM PDT by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: forkinsocket

You wrote:

“I don’t shake hands with men - has nothing to do with feeling lowly.”

You don’t shake hands with men? Even the women of the victorian era usually would do so.


26 posted on 06/22/2008 7:26:46 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: HankArcher

“Muslim mysogynist.” redundant.

Hank - thanks for not making me feel like the only one on this! that was my same reply.


27 posted on 06/22/2008 7:27:22 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Southerngl

Poor Monk would have been SOL had he not had his handy wipes available.

Yes!!! Isn’t Monk just the best?


28 posted on 06/22/2008 7:29:20 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: forkinsocket
Alinoor Ahmed Sheikh, a Somali based in an asylum hostel in Tralee.....

"She was lovely and fair
as the rose of the summer
yet t'was not her beauty
alone that won me
Oh!,No! 'twas the truth
in her eye ever dawning
that made me love Mary,
the Rose of Tralee

Irish favourite ballad circa 1845.

Will someone tell these intruders to return to the land where his wretched observances are the norm.

29 posted on 06/22/2008 7:29:22 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: llandres

Oh my gosh, I LOVE Monk.


30 posted on 06/22/2008 7:29:46 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: forkinsocket

>>>They think of it as “some Middle Eastern custom, I guess”.

Guess what, this is not the Middle East, and women are treated with a little more respect and decency than in the Islamic world, thank God. If you cannot adapt to this strange and alien practice, I might have a suggestion or two. (And it would not include the decapitation of a woman who tried to shake your hand...)


31 posted on 06/22/2008 7:30:13 PM PDT by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: forkinsocket

Would it be OK to shake a woman’s hand if he wore gloves?


32 posted on 06/22/2008 7:31:29 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: HoosierHawk

It has to do with women being unclean during menstruation, but that is neither here nor there.


33 posted on 06/22/2008 7:32:09 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: vladimir998

Nope. No physical contact with men who are not close relatives or (future - I’m still engaged) husband.


34 posted on 06/22/2008 7:32:54 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket

>Where I am from it is normal that some people will not touch the opposite gender,<

Curiosity wins. Where are you from?


35 posted on 06/22/2008 7:35:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: forkinsocket

Is that for religious reasons?


36 posted on 06/22/2008 7:35:57 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: forkinsocket

And this lunatic is expecting asylum in a civilized nation?

This little stunt should end ALL hope for the bastard...

Leave them all in their own toilet.


37 posted on 06/22/2008 7:36:56 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: ViLaLuz

Don’t know. There’s probably some Rabbinic ruling on that. I grew up in a place that didn’t have an organized Jewish community, so we just stuck to our old practices & didn’t consult with rabbis. I’m not big on rulings that circumvent the spirit of the law, so even if such a thing was permitted, I wouldn’t do it.


38 posted on 06/22/2008 7:37:40 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: seanrobins

If you can’t bring yourself to talk to me without attempting to grab my hand - better find other people to talk to. Don’t like me here? Lobby your government not to give me a visa next time, then. *shrug*


39 posted on 06/22/2008 7:40:02 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket

Not shaking the hand of a female is archaic. Religious “admonitions” against merely touching a member of the opposite sex for whatever reasons is ludicrous. Not going so far as to even gaze or look at a female proves, to me, the insanity and illogic of some so-called “religious” strictures.


40 posted on 06/22/2008 7:40:10 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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