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Here's the link to the MSNBC video.

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Research, people, research. Does this sound as bad to others as it does to me? Does it pretty much put an end to the Michelle comments controversy?

1 posted on 06/20/2008 9:58:18 AM PDT by mngran2
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Why are you posting propaganda from an UnAmerican Democrat Party website?
33 posted on 06/20/2008 10:15:37 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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Notice Michelle Obama doesn't use the word "really". It was added later to help her out of the hole she dug.

Two quotes

To attempt to compare that to McCain's quote is laughable. But keep trying to rehabilitate the angry blowhard's reputation.

35 posted on 06/20/2008 10:16:01 AM PDT by impeachedrapist
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Obviously, it makes you love America. I really didn't love America until I was deprived of her company, Think about that you on the fence voters.
38 posted on 06/20/2008 10:17:00 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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I’m not a big fan of McCain, and I’m sure most of you haven’t noticed... LOL.

This is a poor choice of words, but I don’t read into it what others might.

With Michelle Obama, there was an implied slam at the U.S., as if it wasn’t worth respecting or loving until now.

With McCain it’s more like he never quite focused on his feelings for the nation until he couldn’t go home.

I had an inate love of our nation early on. I think it does reveal some of McCain’s character shortcomings to say what he did, the way he did, but I still don’t see his statement as a slam of the nation, which Michelle’s clearly was.


39 posted on 06/20/2008 10:20:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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No. It's interesting that both McCain and Obama used the qualifier "really" in their statements... although Michelle's comments are oft repeated without the "really."

This is because Michelle made the statement TWICE. The first time she did NOT say "really", the second time the word was added to "clarify" her earlier speech.

40 posted on 06/20/2008 10:20:17 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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You’re absolutely right. It puts an end to the Michelle controversy.

IF she was held as a POW and tortured by the enemy.

Any more questions?

Go back to Daily Kos. Plenty of us can’t stand McCain- but your kind of post is gin clear.


41 posted on 06/20/2008 10:21:17 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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Take your propaganda somewhere else. You won’t get away with it here. Loser


42 posted on 06/20/2008 10:21:37 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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TELL THAT GAY WUSS ABRAMS he cant hold the dirt off of Senator McCain’s shoe soles because he isnt worthyf such an Honor!


43 posted on 06/20/2008 10:21:46 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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“Does it pretty much put an end to the Michelle comments controversy? “

No.....Michelle is STILL obama’s BITTER half..


44 posted on 06/20/2008 10:21:48 AM PDT by Thinkin
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My Mom and I talk about this a lot.

Why do young people vote for Obama?

Because the young have no concept of how special America is, and how blessed their lives are. America is a shining aberration in the history of the world. It’s not the natural way of man or cultures, to have so much and be so free,

They don’t understand how much people have given for it, and how easily it can be lost.

The differene is, John McCain went overseas and learned this. Obama went overseas and saw everything wrong with America.


46 posted on 06/20/2008 10:23:48 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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It doesn’t sound bad to me, not at all. John McCain is saying that he didn’t understand how great America really was until he was imprisoned in Vietnam.

That’s a world of difference from Michelle Obama’s comment that she was never proud of American until her husband ran for president. Michelle Obama thinks that America should change to suit her particular meta narrative before she is proud, not the other way around, like John McCain.

The two statements are diametrically opposed.


48 posted on 06/20/2008 10:25:45 AM PDT by Eva (ue)
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i see nothing wrong with what he said... it's not as though he hated America... please... take what he said into context... it's human nature to not realize what you have until it's gone... that's what i hear him saying... to try to put a different, negative meaning on this makes one look intellectually dishonest--in need of basic reading comprehension...

and i am not a John McCain fan...

49 posted on 06/20/2008 10:25:54 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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That doesn’t sound bad to me, it sounds like he admits he took America for granted until he didn’t have Her anymore.

I know alot of people like that. I know I was a stupid youngun’ too. I probably didn’t love America very much until I grew up enough to view the world around me and realized, Hey, it’s pretty darn good here!

It’s certainly not the same as saying that unless America has a black president, it’s crapola. That is what Michelle Obama essentially said.


51 posted on 06/20/2008 10:27:59 AM PDT by Southerngl
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This is stupid.

I married my wife 12 years ago, 5 years later I was standing in a delivery room watching doctors perform CPR on  my wife while nurses tended to my new born daughter. At that moment I realized that I would trade my life for hers. After a week on life support and year of recovery I learned how much I loved my wife. Did I love her before? Yes. Did I appreciate her as much and consider what my life would have been like had I lost her before that day? No. But on that day I learned the true meaning of love and what my wife means to me.

To use that experience against McCain is despicable regardless of how you feel about his political views.  His view on how he feels about this country is relative to his experience in life. He may have thought he loved his country before then, he obviously loved her enough to serve her, but compared to how he loved her after he was deprived of her made those previous feelings meaningless in the new context of how he feels about her now.

57 posted on 06/20/2008 10:33:01 AM PDT by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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Let's see. McCain says he didn't really love America until he was in a POW camp being tortured by our enemies.

Meanwhile, Michelle Obama says she was never proud of her country until a bunch of idiots voted en masse for her extreme left, racist husband.

Nah, no distinction there.

If McCain doesn't win this race by 10%, this country is doomed.
58 posted on 06/20/2008 10:33:10 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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I'm not a McCain supporter, but this ludicrous.


ludicrous:


adjective

1 farcical, ludicrous, ridiculous
broadly or extravagantly humorous;
resembling farce; "the wild farcical exuberance of a clown"; "ludicrous green hair"

2 absurd, cockeyed, derisory, idiotic,
laughable, ludicrous, nonsensical, preposterous, ridiculous
completely devoid of wisdom or good sense;
"the absurd excuse that the dog ate his homework";
"that's a cockeyed idea"; "ask a nonsensical question and get a nonsensical answer";
"a contribution so small as to be laughable"


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

59 posted on 06/20/2008 10:33:15 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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Talkign Points Memo blog is run by a liberal. It’s garbage.


62 posted on 06/20/2008 10:35:03 AM PDT by library user
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Does this sound as bad to others as it does to me?

It would if I were a complete illiterate boob.

Does it pretty much put an end to the Michelle comments controversy?

Not hardly, sonny. Better luck next time.
63 posted on 06/20/2008 10:35:14 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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we haven’t left the word REALLY out of MO’s comments; she did. She said she wasn’t proud at 2 separate occassions. Once w/ really and once without.


65 posted on 06/20/2008 10:36:07 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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http://www.logicalfallacies.info/accent.html


66 posted on 06/20/2008 10:36:55 AM PDT by tumblindice
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