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Did John McCain Say He Didn't Really Love America?
Talking Points Memo ^ | 6/19/08

Posted on 06/20/2008 9:58:18 AM PDT by mngran2

Yes he did.

On his show tonight, Dan Abrams drew attention to a quote from John McCain in an interview with Sean Hannity that flew under the radar for the past 3 months:

HANNITY: -- and then I understand you didn't get any medical help for nine days. You spent two years of this five-and-a-half-year period in solitary confinement. What does that do to a person, to spend that much time in solitary confinement?

MCCAIN: I think it makes you a better person. Obviously, it makes you love America. I really didn't love America until I was deprived of her company, but probably the most important thing about it, Sean, is that I was privileged to have the opportunity to serve in the company of heroes.

In light of all of the political hay that the repubs have made out of Michelle Obama saying that seeing such enthusiasm in this election cycle had caused her to be really proud of America for the first time in her adult life, I think it is worth giving a second look. Does anybody think McCain didn't love America before he was a POW? No. It's interesting that both McCain and Obama used the qualifier "really" in their statements... although Michelle's comments are oft repeated without the "really." It's interesting how when lines fit or don't fit particular scripts the are or are not noticed. Obama's comment were pounced upon almost immediately, while McCain's comment wasn't noticed for 3 months.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; mccain; michelle; oppositionresearch; patriotism; rino
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To: mngran2

You’re absolutely right. It puts an end to the Michelle controversy.

IF she was held as a POW and tortured by the enemy.

Any more questions?

Go back to Daily Kos. Plenty of us can’t stand McCain- but your kind of post is gin clear.


41 posted on 06/20/2008 10:21:17 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mngran2

Take your propaganda somewhere else. You won’t get away with it here. Loser


42 posted on 06/20/2008 10:21:37 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: mngran2

TELL THAT GAY WUSS ABRAMS he cant hold the dirt off of Senator McCain’s shoe soles because he isnt worthyf such an Honor!


43 posted on 06/20/2008 10:21:46 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: mngran2

“Does it pretty much put an end to the Michelle comments controversy? “

No.....Michelle is STILL obama’s BITTER half..


44 posted on 06/20/2008 10:21:48 AM PDT by Thinkin
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To: HappyinAZ

seriously....the rats and McCain haters will run with this...but yeh- I beleive a guy who was born on a naval base and spent 5+ years getting the crapped kicked out of him daily because he voluntarily served his country did not really “love” his country until that point...


45 posted on 06/20/2008 10:23:24 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: mngran2

My Mom and I talk about this a lot.

Why do young people vote for Obama?

Because the young have no concept of how special America is, and how blessed their lives are. America is a shining aberration in the history of the world. It’s not the natural way of man or cultures, to have so much and be so free,

They don’t understand how much people have given for it, and how easily it can be lost.

The differene is, John McCain went overseas and learned this. Obama went overseas and saw everything wrong with America.


46 posted on 06/20/2008 10:23:48 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: GOP_Lady

I agree.


47 posted on 06/20/2008 10:25:13 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: mngran2

It doesn’t sound bad to me, not at all. John McCain is saying that he didn’t understand how great America really was until he was imprisoned in Vietnam.

That’s a world of difference from Michelle Obama’s comment that she was never proud of American until her husband ran for president. Michelle Obama thinks that America should change to suit her particular meta narrative before she is proud, not the other way around, like John McCain.

The two statements are diametrically opposed.


48 posted on 06/20/2008 10:25:45 AM PDT by Eva (ue)
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To: mngran2
i see nothing wrong with what he said... it's not as though he hated America... please... take what he said into context... it's human nature to not realize what you have until it's gone... that's what i hear him saying... to try to put a different, negative meaning on this makes one look intellectually dishonest--in need of basic reading comprehension...

and i am not a John McCain fan...

49 posted on 06/20/2008 10:25:54 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: pnh102
I don’t see the big deal. A lot of Americans, when they go abroad for the first time to a turd world country for any reason, develop a newfound appreciation for this country.

Exactlly! I could have said the same thing McCain said before I went to SE Asia for a year. When I got off that plane back in the good old USA I literally kissed the ground. Thus began a real love affair with my country. This is truly the greatest country on the planet and you sometimes just don't realize it until you leave it for a while and live somewhere else.

50 posted on 06/20/2008 10:26:38 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: mngran2

That doesn’t sound bad to me, it sounds like he admits he took America for granted until he didn’t have Her anymore.

I know alot of people like that. I know I was a stupid youngun’ too. I probably didn’t love America very much until I grew up enough to view the world around me and realized, Hey, it’s pretty darn good here!

It’s certainly not the same as saying that unless America has a black president, it’s crapola. That is what Michelle Obama essentially said.


51 posted on 06/20/2008 10:27:59 AM PDT by Southerngl
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To: GOP_Lady

I know what he’s up to.
Making everyone want to vote for McCain. Brilliant!

As the old saying goes:
“Not only do they not have a clue—they don’t even suspect.”


52 posted on 06/20/2008 10:28:30 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: A_perfect_lady

Will you please stop using logic. You can’t possible persuade the other side with logic it’s a foreign language to them. You may as well be speaking in tounges! :-)


53 posted on 06/20/2008 10:29:10 AM PDT by marlon
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To: A_perfect_lady

AMEN!! Your point is 1000% Clear and Correct!

McCain saw how wondrful America IS!

Michelle Osama HUSSEIN sees America changing to HER WARPED VISION!

Just a Slight Difference! A DIMBOWIT’s Opinion of America is a pathetic negative desertation of rabid innuendo.


54 posted on 06/20/2008 10:30:04 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: Southerngl

“It’s certainly not the same as saying that unless America has a black president, it’s crapola. That is what Michelle Obama essentially said.”

YEP!


55 posted on 06/20/2008 10:32:14 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: vietvet67
“I really didn’t realize how much I loved America until I was deprived of her company.”

Properly put... to bad that FreeRepublic has to clean up for him.

56 posted on 06/20/2008 10:32:36 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: mngran2
This is stupid.

I married my wife 12 years ago, 5 years later I was standing in a delivery room watching doctors perform CPR on  my wife while nurses tended to my new born daughter. At that moment I realized that I would trade my life for hers. After a week on life support and year of recovery I learned how much I loved my wife. Did I love her before? Yes. Did I appreciate her as much and consider what my life would have been like had I lost her before that day? No. But on that day I learned the true meaning of love and what my wife means to me.

To use that experience against McCain is despicable regardless of how you feel about his political views.  His view on how he feels about this country is relative to his experience in life. He may have thought he loved his country before then, he obviously loved her enough to serve her, but compared to how he loved her after he was deprived of her made those previous feelings meaningless in the new context of how he feels about her now.

57 posted on 06/20/2008 10:33:01 AM PDT by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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To: mngran2
Let's see. McCain says he didn't really love America until he was in a POW camp being tortured by our enemies.

Meanwhile, Michelle Obama says she was never proud of her country until a bunch of idiots voted en masse for her extreme left, racist husband.

Nah, no distinction there.

If McCain doesn't win this race by 10%, this country is doomed.
58 posted on 06/20/2008 10:33:10 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: mngran2
I'm not a McCain supporter, but this ludicrous.


ludicrous:


adjective

1 farcical, ludicrous, ridiculous
broadly or extravagantly humorous;
resembling farce; "the wild farcical exuberance of a clown"; "ludicrous green hair"

2 absurd, cockeyed, derisory, idiotic,
laughable, ludicrous, nonsensical, preposterous, ridiculous
completely devoid of wisdom or good sense;
"the absurd excuse that the dog ate his homework";
"that's a cockeyed idea"; "ask a nonsensical question and get a nonsensical answer";
"a contribution so small as to be laughable"


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

59 posted on 06/20/2008 10:33:15 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: txroadkill

:-) You touched my heart.


60 posted on 06/20/2008 10:34:23 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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