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Did John McCain Say He Didn't Really Love America?
Talking Points Memo ^ | 6/19/08

Posted on 06/20/2008 9:58:18 AM PDT by mngran2

Yes he did.

On his show tonight, Dan Abrams drew attention to a quote from John McCain in an interview with Sean Hannity that flew under the radar for the past 3 months:

HANNITY: -- and then I understand you didn't get any medical help for nine days. You spent two years of this five-and-a-half-year period in solitary confinement. What does that do to a person, to spend that much time in solitary confinement?

MCCAIN: I think it makes you a better person. Obviously, it makes you love America. I really didn't love America until I was deprived of her company, but probably the most important thing about it, Sean, is that I was privileged to have the opportunity to serve in the company of heroes.

In light of all of the political hay that the repubs have made out of Michelle Obama saying that seeing such enthusiasm in this election cycle had caused her to be really proud of America for the first time in her adult life, I think it is worth giving a second look. Does anybody think McCain didn't love America before he was a POW? No. It's interesting that both McCain and Obama used the qualifier "really" in their statements... although Michelle's comments are oft repeated without the "really." It's interesting how when lines fit or don't fit particular scripts the are or are not noticed. Obama's comment were pounced upon almost immediately, while McCain's comment wasn't noticed for 3 months.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; mccain; michelle; oppositionresearch; patriotism; rino
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To: FreeReign

And neither do I.


21 posted on 06/20/2008 10:09:02 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: mngran2

I don’t see the big deal. A lot of Americans, when they go abroad for the first time to a turd world country for any reason, develop a newfound appreciation for this country.


22 posted on 06/20/2008 10:09:40 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: mngran2
How many young people actually appreciate the country the way they should? How old was McCain when he entered the military and how old is our potential First Lady? How many Marxist indoctrinated people really dislike this country far into adulthood?

No comparison, end of story.

23 posted on 06/20/2008 10:10:38 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: mngran2
I really didn't love America until I was deprived of her company

I see nothing even slightly questionable about his statement. This is an absurd thread.

24 posted on 06/20/2008 10:10:38 AM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: mngran2

No comparison and it certainly doesn’t put an end to criticism of Michelle’s comments.


25 posted on 06/20/2008 10:11:34 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: mngran2

Anyone who can not understand what McCain is saying in the context of his experience is either a wierdo, an idiot, or a pinko Obama apologist pretending for political purposes to have found the holy grail. As to whether this Oscar-nominated effort by MSNBC will have any effect on the heat that Michelle Obama has been getting is hard to say. If she screws up again, she’ll get heat. If she doesn’t, other campaign news will dominate the media— maybe even some real news. MSNBC is a media cesspool. Nobody watches it unless they are already of a certain persuasion, or are interested for intellegence purposes in what the “G— D-—America” crowd is saying.


26 posted on 06/20/2008 10:12:03 AM PDT by mathurine
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To: HappyinAZ

McCain was 31 when he was captured.


27 posted on 06/20/2008 10:12:34 AM PDT by mngran2
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To: mngran2

I think what he is trying to say is that you don’t truely appreciate something until you lose it or are separated from it. And it’s true. The overwhelming majority of the people in this country take our freedoms and our liberties for granted. They’ve always enjoyed them and never had to fight for them. As Thomas Paine wrote, “That which we obtain too easily, we esteem too lightly.” But take it away and it’s another story.


28 posted on 06/20/2008 10:13:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: JimSEA
The thread is not absurd if you see that it is part of the lib talking points. This is the crap we need to know, so we can beat them to the punch and try to keep them from winning the election.

I think it is absurd that the libs are willing to try to use it.

29 posted on 06/20/2008 10:14:21 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: HappyinAZ

You are posting misinformation again. Still attacking long time freepers and recommending visits to liberal sites?


30 posted on 06/20/2008 10:14:55 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: mngran2
Are you daft? Or did you forget the sarcasm warning.
31 posted on 06/20/2008 10:15:18 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

They are disgraceful using this.


32 posted on 06/20/2008 10:15:37 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: mngran2
Why are you posting propaganda from an UnAmerican Democrat Party website?
33 posted on 06/20/2008 10:15:37 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: roses of sharon

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.


34 posted on 06/20/2008 10:15:59 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: mngran2
Notice Michelle Obama doesn't use the word "really". It was added later to help her out of the hole she dug.

Two quotes

To attempt to compare that to McCain's quote is laughable. But keep trying to rehabilitate the angry blowhard's reputation.

35 posted on 06/20/2008 10:16:01 AM PDT by impeachedrapist
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To: TribalPrincess2U

"try again loser"

Okay, winner.


36 posted on 06/20/2008 10:16:26 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: mathurine; mngran2

Excellent post, on the mark.


37 posted on 06/20/2008 10:16:39 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: mngran2
Obviously, it makes you love America. I really didn't love America until I was deprived of her company, Think about that you on the fence voters.
38 posted on 06/20/2008 10:17:00 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: mngran2

I’m not a big fan of McCain, and I’m sure most of you haven’t noticed... LOL.

This is a poor choice of words, but I don’t read into it what others might.

With Michelle Obama, there was an implied slam at the U.S., as if it wasn’t worth respecting or loving until now.

With McCain it’s more like he never quite focused on his feelings for the nation until he couldn’t go home.

I had an inate love of our nation early on. I think it does reveal some of McCain’s character shortcomings to say what he did, the way he did, but I still don’t see his statement as a slam of the nation, which Michelle’s clearly was.


39 posted on 06/20/2008 10:20:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: mngran2
No. It's interesting that both McCain and Obama used the qualifier "really" in their statements... although Michelle's comments are oft repeated without the "really."

This is because Michelle made the statement TWICE. The first time she did NOT say "really", the second time the word was added to "clarify" her earlier speech.

40 posted on 06/20/2008 10:20:17 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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