Posted on 06/20/2008 7:23:28 AM PDT by chessplayer
ScienceDaily (June 19, 2008) — New research suggests that ocean temperature and associated sea level increases between 1961 and 2003 were 50 percent larger than estimated in the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report.
The research corrected for small but systematic biases recently discovered in the global ocean observing system, and uses statistical techniques that “infill” information in data-sparse regions.
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Next week we’ll be told “Yes but the lower ocean layers are getting colder. Stay tuned ....
I read somewhere that the ocean is our big heat sink, which the earth uses to counter global warming. I’m just wondering if the effect they are seeing is why we’ve been getting some global cooling the last few years. Ocean warming is a GOOD thing!
Hey, my guess is as good as the enviro-nazis’ guess!!
I've got a salt water stream at the end of my back yard - and other than occasional storms and tide changes, it's been at the same level for over 20 years.
Worth thinking about...
This sort of thing does not raise anyone's confidence in the ability of the standard models to predict anything.
In fact, it's quite frightening to realize that the folks whose careers are devoted to climatology are so casual about creating new data to fit their models.
Makes sense. The globular warning arguments are loosing traction in the face of real science. How to re energize the “flavor-aid” drinking base? Apply some sketchy statistical analysis (see: lies, damn lies, and statistics) to support the weak premise (mass = validity, just like in school), and voila, one has a fresh argument!
A$$H@
Experts: Dogs and cats living together more than any other time in history.
But they aren't "seeing it". No one is. They are pulling numbers out of their bottoms and "infilling data" until the results match their assumptions.
"An international team of researchers, including Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory climate scientist Peter Gleckler, compared climate models with improved observations that show sea levels rose by 1.5 millimeters per year in the period from 1961-2003. That equates to an approximately 2½-inch increase in ocean levels in a 42-year span.
As soon as I saw "climate models" a big red flag went up. These researchers are telling us that sea levels are rising faster than they thought. So what does that have to do with "climate models"? Beats me. I think if you want to know what the sea level is now versus what it was 42 years ago you look at the data for the last 42 years and not your model of the sea level.
Or am I just missing the point?
That's right, though of course most of the sea-change was packed into the period of greatest melt some 11000 years ago.
Some previous interglacial epochs have had a peak sea level 3 to 20m higher than the current one. I'm not sure if any of the warm periods in the current Holocene period have put the sea that high..
We are almost certainly at the local maximum of the Modern Warm Period (worse luck) and won't see higher seas until the next warm period in about a thousand years. If we don't slide into a full ice age before then, of course.
I watched a show yesterday dealing with the “Little Ice Age” on the History Channel. You know, the time between 1300 and 1845. At the end of the show, there was a segment on the future. It seems that some wackos believe that “global warming” will bring on another ice age.
What is it? Is it going to get hotter or colder? make up your (censored) minds!!!!!
GIGO
“GIGO”
Perfect analysis, covers the whole issue - winner of the conciseness award. ROFL
Since this would primarily affect places like NYC and Boston maybe it is not so bad. Drowning is not my first choice for getting the east coast enviros to shut up but it would accomplish that.
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Ocean Temperatures And Sea Level Increases 50 Percent Higher Than Previously Estimated
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Hardly a week passes without some new study being released that assures us is authoritative and accurate, no matter how authoritative and accurate the study was that it supersedes.
The problem is, there is data and research from other groups that contradicts what this group is saying.
The key word here is suggests. They constantly change things to try to enforce their stupid global warming(now climate change)theory, it is falling apart fast and they are doing what they can to try and save it, can't have people not being terrified can we?
So the one that is right, is the one we want to be?
How much sediment falls on the ocean floor in 50 years? Wonder if this nature rise in sea level is taken into account?
Not sure what you mean by that. The point is, there are varying theories as to whether the earth's temperatures are warming or cooling on average, and by how much. Which means one of three things: the scientific community doesn't really know, different scientific groups have different agendas, or different groups are measuring different things in different ways which doesn't end up giving an overall picture.
Yes, so we choose to back the ones that say what we want to hear.
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