Posted on 06/19/2008 12:40:49 PM PDT by shortstop
This should serve as a warning to all freedom loving Americans. Before pulling the lever this coming November, remember: both Hillary and Obama support draconian gun laws aimed not at criminals (because criminals don't obey the laws anyway), but at law abiding citizens.
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Were you replying to anything I said specifically? I agree it’s a big issue and so I’m not sure why you were responding to me on this. I’m trying to figure out if I wrote something that possibly could have been misinterpreted from what I meant. If so, I would like to clarify my statements.
Your post was as close to the topic as I found in the latter portions of this thread.
So, no, I’m not being confrontational with you - just wanted people to look at it from a different angle, the INTENT angle instead of the POSSIBILITY angle.
Leftists need to be bounced on their INTENT to violate our freedoms, not on the probability that they’ll get their agenda implemented.
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
-- Ayn Rand - 'Atlas Shrugged' 1957"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the 'common good' may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for 'our own good' will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
-- C. S. Lewis
I’m glad you feel that way, that’s an excellent example. Again I apologise, and in the future I will attempt to not question you in ways that frame you as a red neck.
Well stated Sir, and ‘Thank You’ for yer service...
If you wait until the police/troops come to your house, it is too late. The best defense is an offense.
attrition thru incremental beaureacratics has near run its course...then itll be time to make a few examples to thin the herd some more...
those still holding out will eventually become the 'big fish' in their small little ponds across the country...
a handful of guys known as swat will gleefully kill yer dog and your wife/kids on the alter of socialism...
many will die before those with the skillsets to take the fight to our domestic enemies are able to save the rest...
Godspeed to them when the hand is called... LFOD...
My Wife and I decided long ago to go down shooting. We don't have a vast arsenal or a defensible compound. All we have is each other and some principles to live or die by.
Without the ability to defend ourselves, what good is living? TFMCDH
Thanks for the voice of reason. I didn’t realize there were so many weiners on this board.
“I might lose my job or whatever” BooHoo! Stand up for what’s right or get out of the damn way!!
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“The best defense is an offense.:
Agreed.
In 1999 BATF estimated 291 million guns owned in the US. There are people with massive arsenals out there. IMO, the Gov would be crazy to assume they could take them all. But, the Gov has been known to be crazy and so have the citizens
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“in the future I will attempt to not question you in ways that frame you as a red neck.”
Get it now?
OK, I’ll do the same for you.
I don’t mind. I’ve been call worse.
“We don't have a vast arsenal or a defensible compound. All we have is each other and some principles to live or die by.” You and your wife need to rethink the probable outcome. A vast arsenal and a so called defendable compound would be useless and is a naive romantic notion. Anyone who intends to resist - and survive will need to constantly be on the move and hide, hide, hide. Keep in mind that the Special Op’s boys will be hunting you and your wife down with all their latest gadgetry...
“We don't have a vast arsenal or a defensible compound. All we have is each other and some principles to live or die by.” You and your wife need to rethink the probable outcome. A vast arsenal and a so called defendable compound would be useless and is a naive romantic notion. Anyone who intends to resist - and survive will need to constantly be on the move and hide, hide, hide. Keep in mind that the Special Op’s boys will be hunting you and your wife down with all their latest gadgetry...
First of all, you’ll need to cancel the ON-STAR service.
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