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We're not going to pay AP's extortion fees and we're not going to allow them to control free speech!
Recent AP vs fair use threads ^ | June 17, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/17/2008 1:23:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

This is our Boston tea Party.

The Associated Press wants to levy a $12.50 and up license fee (aka extortion fee) on any blogger who quotes more than 4 words from one of their propaganda pieces. This is an outrageous attempt to control the blogosphere and free speech itself. To hell with their license fee and to hell with the AP. Any AP article that gets posted to FR will be jettisoned into the harbor posthaste.

Please do not post any AP material to FR excerpted or not.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: achillwind; agitprop; americanpravda; antiamericanpress; ap; apbias; associatedpress; asspress; censorship; copyright; dbm; fairuse; faq; fascists; freepspeech; freespeech
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To: Jim Robinson

Hey Jim glad to see you’re still standing strong. To think Ap and it’s writers probably get most of their stuff from here and rewrite to suit their purposes. Ungrateful b@stids


101 posted on 06/17/2008 2:17:58 PM PDT by swheats
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To: Jim Robinson

Hi Jim! Glad to “see” you...

I’m finding some conflicting info. on this and thought you might want to see this:

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15888.html

On Saturday, The A.P. retreated. Jim Kennedy, vice president and strategy director of The A.P., said in an interview that the news organization had decided that its letter to the Drudge Retort was “heavy-handed” and that The A.P. was going to rethink its policies toward bloggers.

The quick about-face came, he said, because a number of well-known bloggers started criticizing its policy, claiming it would undercut the active discussion of the news that rages on sites, big and small, across the Internet.

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I still think it’s a ridiculous attempt by the AP to try and make themselves relevant. And, of course I will not post anything here from the AP in keeping with your rules. :)


102 posted on 06/17/2008 2:18:40 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (My Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & NEW http://exposingobama.wordpress.com)
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To: weegee

So I guess we have four branches of government then?

The Legislative, Executive, Judicial and now AP?

Who gave them this power not to be offended??

I think I’m going to charge the AP every time I get offended by THEIR articles!! ugh


103 posted on 06/17/2008 2:18:54 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Jim Robinson

I work at a large office building, and one of the duties of the front desk is to stack the papers for the tenants for pickup when they come in. The AP office gets a number of issues and they are usually on top. Since I have taken over the post, the AP papers are at the bottom of the pile, requiring the AP personnel to bend down, lift about 50lbs of newsprint, and gather their copies.

The AP guy asked how come they were on the bottom, and my response was, “well someone has to be.”


104 posted on 06/17/2008 2:19:09 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: weegee

Thanks.


105 posted on 06/17/2008 2:19:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Who owns the rights to Winnie the Pooh anyway? they should be making a killing after that one. lol



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106 posted on 06/17/2008 2:20:28 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Jim Robinson

They write nothing worth a penny.


107 posted on 06/17/2008 2:20:45 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: 11Bush

lol thank you


108 posted on 06/17/2008 2:20:47 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: dead

LOL,

or Green Helmet guy carrying one.


109 posted on 06/17/2008 2:21:20 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (Government tends to never fix the problems it creates in the first place)
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To: 11Bush

LOL job well done.


110 posted on 06/17/2008 2:21:20 PM PDT by swheats
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To: Jim Robinson

The AP’s slanted headline writing alone is enough to enflame any normal human’s thought processes. Eff’em and thank you Jim.


111 posted on 06/17/2008 2:22:26 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Jim Robinson

Is this retroactive? Or does it only apply to posts from this moment forward?

I’m curious if you’ll be deleting older threads that used AP articles as its source. If so, I’ll make copies quick!


112 posted on 06/17/2008 2:22:30 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover; Jim Robinson

And does it apply to articles that use the AP as a source.

For instance..

What about news stations that use the AP?

Can we post material from them? What about news articles that use a mix of their own reporting, AP reporting and other reporting?

How will that work? Does it only apply to things directly from the AP?


113 posted on 06/17/2008 2:25:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: smithone

It will be interesting to see how Drudge handles this.


This started with the Drudge Retort which is slightly different from the Drudge Report. The Retort allows postings whereas the Report doesn’t.

Here are a couple of links:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/business/media/16ap.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

http://www.drudge.com/


114 posted on 06/17/2008 2:26:38 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: Jim Robinson
$12.50 for four words? The Associated Press's words aren't even worth $.02...much LESS $12.50.

Good action, JR!

115 posted on 06/17/2008 2:27:55 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Jim Robinson
We are not alone in the boycott... I just read about TechCrunch's new policy:

So here's our new policy on A.P. stories: they don't exist. We don't see them, we don't quote them, we don't link to them. They're banned until they abandon this new strategy, and I encourage others to do the same until they back down from these ridiculous attempts to stop the spread of information around the Internet.

116 posted on 06/17/2008 2:27:55 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Jim Robinson
Both Rush and Sean Hannity were in high dudgeon yesterday about AP.

Rather brave of Sean in that his boss - Rupert Murdoch - is one of the directors of AP.

117 posted on 06/17/2008 2:28:41 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: Tammy8

I can see a ban on full articles. It negates the reason for a reader to go to their site and them getting paid by the ads. That impacts the market for the articles, so is probably infringement.

But if fair use were respected, FR simply requring that all non-free sources be excerpted (say max 25% of the article, 200 or so words) should be protection enough. We’d actually be a traffic driver, so infringement cases (could FR afford them) would probably go in our favor.


118 posted on 06/17/2008 2:29:25 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Jim Robinson

119 posted on 06/17/2008 2:30:47 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Jim Robinson
"This is our Boston tea Party."

Reporting for duty.

120 posted on 06/17/2008 2:30:58 PM PDT by 1035rep
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