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McCain and the Bitter Conservatives
American Thinker ^ | June 15, 2008 | Andrew Sumereau

Posted on 06/15/2008 12:57:09 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Luke21

> Churchill wouldn’t have let England be swarmed under a flood of illegal immigrants.

He had his own moments of really arguable domestic performance — like the General Strike of 1926 and the Sidney St Seige and the Tonypandy Riot. And I’ve already mentioned the Dardanelles fiasco.

We don’t know what he would have done about the Mexican illegal alien situation because he was never put in that position.

We *do* know that he wasn’t the arch-Conservative Icon all of his political career that we’d like to think he was.

His performance during WW-II was certainly masterful. Before that, and after that, it was so-so, and sometimes pretty awful.

> Again, terrible analogy.

Time will tell. On McCain’s performance-to-date, it tracks along quite nicely with Churchill’s pre-WW-II performance. Both served, both were POWs, both had political careers, both straddled either side of Center, and both had wobbly bits that would infuriate the Conservatives...

...no, I’d say it’s a brilliant analogy. Could even prove to be Prophetic, depending on how McCain does if he is ever made POTUS.

You clearly disagree — I’d be curious to see how.


21 posted on 06/15/2008 2:45:37 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: marsh2
Everyone needs to mail or email the McCain campaign with their disgust of the algore speeches and McCain's other bonehead moves.

By golly, we may have to elect this turd but that does not mean we can't make his tenure as President a living Hell! He would do very well to remember that!

22 posted on 06/15/2008 2:49:12 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Prole
Email his campaign and tell them exactly that. Let them know you're pissed. I have, every day for the last 2 weeks. If they get enough grief, they'll change it. They want your vote.
23 posted on 06/15/2008 2:51:50 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: neverdem
Each day, it seems, he appears to make a pronouncement, or suggest a policy, or chastise an enthusiastic supporter, in order to please the main-stream media and send conservatives off wailing and gnashing their teeth.

McCain should suspend his campaign

24 posted on 06/15/2008 2:53:02 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Particularly if we stay on his back about all his stupid moves.


25 posted on 06/15/2008 2:53:26 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: singfreedom
I'm afraid, very afraid! Not sarcasm!
26 posted on 06/15/2008 2:55:20 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Luke21

Churchill did well with WWII, but before that he sucked. Just ask the Irish; Churchill tormented those people and literally split the country in two. The sectarian strife, still prevalent today, can be laid right at his feet.


27 posted on 06/15/2008 2:55:34 AM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: neverdem
Wrong.

McCain will not appoint originalist judges(unless by accident)

And he's not good on spending either.

McCain promises billions in new spending

I could take the tax part seriously if he didn't believe in huge tax increases via cap and trade.

28 posted on 06/15/2008 2:55:38 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (All politics is judicial. Not local. Welcome to liberal america.)
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To: roamer_1

If you don’t seek you shall never find. there are lots of possibilities and high gas prices fuel the market (no pun intended).


29 posted on 06/15/2008 2:57:00 AM PDT by wireplay
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To: Ingtar

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30 posted on 06/15/2008 2:58:06 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (All politics is judicial. Not local. Welcome to liberal america.)
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To: neverdem

He is also 99% better than gun grabbing Obama. Just wait till Obama is President with the MSM behind him touting gun control He will make Bill Clinton seem pro-2nd amendment.


31 posted on 06/15/2008 2:59:59 AM PDT by therut
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To: Luke21

^^^^^^^^^^McCain is a betrayer. He has no principles. Churchill wouldn’t have let England be swarmed under a flood of illegal immigrants. Again, terrible analogy.^^^^^^^^^^^

McCain isn’t just a bystander. He didn’t just stand by and watch it happen; let it happen.

McCain lead the charge so that the flood would increase.


32 posted on 06/15/2008 3:03:38 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (All politics is judicial. Not local. Welcome to liberal america.)
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To: xzins

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33 posted on 06/15/2008 3:04:31 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (All politics is judicial. Not local. Welcome to liberal america.)
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To: neverdem
He will not win by giving his base a reason to stay home.

Another author makes the mistake of confusing conservatives with John McCain's "base". The Senator's base is the 80% liberal media, and he would have to "woo" conservatives much the same way he will have to "woo" independents.

34 posted on 06/15/2008 3:11:55 AM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: neverdem
Each day, it seems, he appears to make a pronouncement, or suggest a policy, or chastise an enthusiastic supporter, in order to please the main-stream media ...

A few months month back a local Cincinnati radio personality was asked to fire up the audience at a McPain rally, just prior to McPain showing up. Bill Cunningham, the radio personality, had the temerity to mention Obama’s middle name Hussein, as in Barak Hussein Obama. McPain upon learning of this from his buddies in the liberal MSM immediately condemned what Cunningham had said ... as Cunningham put it, McPain thru me under the bus ... the straight talk express bus, now known, I believe, as the 'no surrender' bus.

35 posted on 06/15/2008 3:12:40 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: neverdem
The party habit of selecting the next in line (e.g. Dole) has rarely produced such an unappealing candidate at such a critical time.

That sums it up.

36 posted on 06/15/2008 3:13:14 AM PDT by livius
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To: wireplay
If you don’t seek you shall never find. there are lots of possibilities and high gas prices fuel the market (no pun intended).

No, there are not 'lots of possibilities', there are nearly *none*. Nothing will take the place of petroleum products any time soon... at least for another generation.

37 posted on 06/15/2008 3:13:35 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I LOVE your analogy and do pray, earnestly, that it will come to pass. You have given me some hope.


38 posted on 06/15/2008 3:17:00 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: neverdem

He picks MYTH for VP and nothing will keep me from staying home.


39 posted on 06/15/2008 3:22:54 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Coldwater Creek
I know, I am too, but we have to go forward. We can do that, we conservatives have done it before. We can do it again.

If McCain is elected, and I pray he is, we just have to let him know what we think. It is very hard for a President to ignore what the folks in his own party are telling him.

40 posted on 06/15/2008 3:27:55 AM PDT by singfreedom
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