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To: Slings and Arrows

I never said the hydrogen/oxygen electrolysis process was oxidation (burning).

However for every chemist who says releasing more energy in the form of hydrogen than you put into the reaction is impossible there are thousands of folk out there right now improving their gas mileage through hydrogen generating boosters to their gasoline engines.

I’m not convinced any chemist understands the process of cracking hydrogen comprehensively—and efficiencies can be gained.

Of course we need cheap electrical power as part of the whole energy solution—and nuke plants are a part of that.

All I’m saying is that in principle, since water is a storage vehicle for energy, it can be tapped too.


63 posted on 06/13/2008 1:46:39 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (If God intended Man to fly, he would have been born with wings!!!)
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To: AnalogReigns
However for every chemist who says releasing more energy in the form of hydrogen than you put into the reaction is impossible there are thousands of folk out there right now improving their gas mileage through hydrogen generating boosters to their gasoline engines.

Scam, plain and simple. Exposed by Mythbusters, among others.

I’m not convinced any chemist understands the process of cracking hydrogen comprehensively—and efficiencies can be gained.

I am.

64 posted on 06/13/2008 2:01:07 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Code Pink should guard against creating stereotypes in the Mincing Community." --Titan Magroyne)
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To: AnalogReigns

>>All I’m saying is that in principle, since water is a storage vehicle for energy, it can be tapped too.

No it isn’t, and no it can’t, without converting the water to something else first.

We oxidize fuels to release the chemical potential energy and convert that energy to heat, to provide comfort and process heating, and to drive heat engines to make shaft work, for transportation and to drive generators to make electricity.

Coal, oil, natural gas and (rarely) hydrogen are among the fuels we use to do this.

Water is oxidized hydrogen. The chemical potential energy of water is pretty much doodly squat, and you can quote me on that.


74 posted on 06/13/2008 5:23:03 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Non-bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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To: AnalogReigns
Of course we need cheap electrical power as part of the whole energy solution

There is no oil crisis

Couple a whole batch of Internal Combustion engines to electric motors, and have the electic motors drive the IC engines in reverse. They will them suck CO2 and water vapour in through the exhaust pipe.
Collect the hyrdocarbon vapour at the inlet ports.

Freedom from the mid East Oil Sheiks!

77 posted on 06/13/2008 11:09:20 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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