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COURT DECISION WILL KILL PEOPLE
boblonsberry.com ^ | 06/13/08 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 06/13/2008 6:21:04 AM PDT by shortstop

In the latest effort to deconstruct and destroy the United States, the Supreme Court has decided that a foreign terrorist captured on foreign territory trying to kill Americans has just as many constitutional rights as a Wal-Mart shoplifter.

The liberals think this is a good thing.

That's because they're America-hating idiots.

Sorry, Obama, but if the shoe fits, cram it up your backside.

In the liberal world view, where the war against terror is no larger than Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, the United States military is a collection of war criminals and puppy killers. Guantanamo Bay – where jihadist murderers and wannabes are held – is not a defense of American safety and interest, it is another opportunity to trash talk our country and the brave men and women who defend it.

Unfortunately, five of these flag burners are on the Supreme Court.

Until Imam Obama starts appointing justices – when we expect the number to jump significantly.

Yesterday, in a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court started a body count. And there will be one. Because this decision is likely to result in dead Americans and dead terrorists.

Here's how I figure.

The dead Americans will be killed by terrorists who are currently at Gitmo but who will soon be released, and by terrorists who might have been detained there but who will run free because there is no place to put them.

The prisoners at Guantanamo Bay include real terrorists who want to die in an American-killing blaze of glory. Some who have already been released have gone on to commit new terrorist acts.

So the Supreme Court is going to have blood on its hands.

American blood.

And terrorist blood. Because this is, after all, the real world. And in the real world, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

And though the evening news will never report this, Guantanamo is the politically correct way to handle these people. Culturally specific foods and prayer rugs and air conditioning is a big smiley face we're showing to the world. The odd irony is that living in a chicken-wire cage in Cuba is the best life most of these jihadists have ever had. When you're a war prisoner and you're gaining weight, you know you're not dealing with the same people who held John McCain.

Yes, the media-Democrat complex can trash Gitmo, but the reality is that things could be a whole lot worse for the detainees.

And now that the Supreme Court has put Gitmo out of business, they will.

If we can't do three hots and a cot anymore, I suspect we'll start doing .45s. I suspect that if people who conspire to murder American citizens and who go into combat against American troops can't be detained, they can be killed. There's no point in taking anyone into custody if you can't hold them. So you might as well not give them the option of surrender.

The alternative to Gitmo is a sniper.

Or, maybe for drama, we have a burly young man with an 82nd Airborne tattoo walk up behind the lingering battlefield jihadist and put a slug through his brain pan.

Easy as pie.

Because we can't let these people run free. Not if we want to keep our troops and our country safe.

And make no mistake about it, because of the Supreme Court decision, these people will run free. It's an unavoidable outcome.

The reason is that detaining them under the rules of a civilian court will require an unacceptable compromising of intelligence sources or a threshold of proof that is unlikely to be met.

If your evidence for holding a guy came by tossing a grenade through a window and shooting off some M16s in order to get some papers or a hard drive, a civilian court is going to wonder about search warrants and the Fourth Amendment. The evidence is going to be thrown out because it's the fruit of a poison tree.

The biggest problem is that it's important for the military and the intelligence community to keep quiet about how it gets its information. If the bad guys know what you know, they can usually figure out how you know it. And they're going to stop doing whatever it is that lets you learn about them.

If you produce evidence taken from phone communications, they're going to stop using the phone. If it came from a spy or mole you have in an organization, there's now a good chance they will find him and kill him.

To produce evidence against these guys will be to give them information they can use to fight us and kill us, and that can't be done.

So they will be let loose, rather than turn over everything we know or have to their defense lawyers, from whom it will somehow magically work its way into the hands of the terrorists.

A lot of these guys will go free, and people may well die as a result.

Because these judges can't tell the difference between run-of-the-mill crime and an effort to annihilate the United States of America.

Terrorists have rights. They have the right to leave us alone, or they have the right to die. It's one or the other.

No matter what the Supreme Court says.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ginsberg; impeachbyer; impeachginsburg; impeachkennedy; impeachscotus; impeachsouter; jihad; kennedy; lonsberry; obama; scotus; stephens; supremecourt; takenoprisoners; unconstitutional; unlawfulcombatants
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There's no point in taking anyone into custody if you can't hold them. So you might as well not give them the option of surrender.

The alternative to Gitmo is a sniper.

1 posted on 06/13/2008 6:21:04 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

Rock. On.


2 posted on 06/13/2008 6:24:57 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: shortstop

Yes, this decision will likely result in the death of more of our soldiers, but in the eyes of the 5 lawyers sitting on the supreme bench, these will only be the sons and daughters of the little people.


3 posted on 06/13/2008 6:25:54 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: shortstop
In the latest effort to deconstruct and destroy the United States, the Supreme Court has decided that a foreign terrorist captured on foreign territory trying to kill Americans has just as many constitutional rights as a Wal-Mart shoplifter.

The liberals think this is a good thing.

That's because they're America-hating idiots.

Sorry, Obama, but if the shoe fits, cram it up your backside.

I like Mr Lonsberry's thinking!

4 posted on 06/13/2008 6:26:42 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: shortstop

The catch and release philosophy shows how sportsmanlike we are.


5 posted on 06/13/2008 6:27:51 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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To: shortstop

Gitmo bookmarker


6 posted on 06/13/2008 6:31:09 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (The elephant has fallen and it can't get up.)
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To: shortstop

Rough ‘em up a little and slip a tiny locater beacon into them amidst the moderate to mild beating. Send ‘em on their merry way and track their every move.


7 posted on 06/13/2008 6:33:16 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: All

Now here's a 'catch and release' program of which I would approve.

8 posted on 06/13/2008 6:33:16 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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To: shortstop
Area weapons are just as effective.

Which brings up another point. Not only has the US Supreme Court paved the way for a national "no prisoners" policy for the United States, it has also expressed a preference for slaughtering vast numbers of folks in the vicinity of the people we need to shoot at.

That Ruthy Ginzburg is one bloodthirsty little byche isn't she.

9 posted on 06/13/2008 6:34:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: shortstop
"There's no point in taking anyone into custody if you can't hold them."

Precisely.

And I think all the remaining "detainees" (liberal-speak for "Terrorist M.F.") should be released immediately.
I've got a spot picked out in West Texas, and a few friends who can be counted on to hunt them down like the rabid dogs they are.

10 posted on 06/13/2008 6:34:40 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: shortstop

Take no prisoners.


11 posted on 06/13/2008 6:37:02 AM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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To: shortstop

“A lot of these guys will go free, and people may well die as a result.”

That doesn’t make a bit of sense. If these guys are guilty of terrorists acts against the United States then try them in court, show the proof, then hang them upon a guilty verdict. If they did no such thing then they do get to go free. How hard is that to understand?

We have lost our minds when we think freedom and liberty is only for us and never the guy next to us. Imagine if our legal system treated you that way: Never a court date, a trial or a disposition. You simply languish in jail forever because someone said you might have done something.


12 posted on 06/13/2008 6:37:27 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: shortstop

World War II “Take No Prisoners”.

End of the story.

Our Supreme Court Sucks and should be dismantled.


13 posted on 06/13/2008 6:40:34 AM PDT by chatham
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To: CodeToad

Gitmo is not a jail. It’s a POW camp for Unlawful Combatents. This ruling is insane. Should N. Korean and VC be able to sue us for taking them prisoner in those undeclared wars?


14 posted on 06/13/2008 6:42:06 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: shortstop
COURT DECISION WILL KILL PEOPLE

Aside from any consideration of the actual issue, I have a problem with this liberal-speak title. It appeals to emotion, to consequences, which I can see Congress doing. But the Supreme Court is supposed to deal with one thing only: constitutionality. To ask them to consider such non-constitutional issues is to ask them to be activist judges, even if such consideration results in the ruling you want.

15 posted on 06/13/2008 6:43:02 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: CodeToad
"If they did no such thing then they do get to go free. How hard is that to understand?"

Since when did we start fighting wars by using lawyers in a courtroom? Clinton used this tactic with the first World Trade Center bombing. That worked well, didn't it.

16 posted on 06/13/2008 6:45:00 AM PDT by shortstop (I used to wrap fish in The New York Times, but it made the fish stink.)
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To: massgopguy
Gitmo is not a jail. It’s a POW camp for Unlawful Combatents.

Be careful of your terminology. A "POW" has specific rights in accordance with the Geneva Convention per his status as a captured lawful combatant. Gitmo is a detention center for unlawful combatants.

17 posted on 06/13/2008 6:45:46 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: CodeToad

If these guys are guilty of terrorists acts against the United States then try them in court, show the proof...

...blow your network, get your agents killed, and never find an agent again.

The constitution was written to institutionalize the rights of citizens, who not only enjoy the rights of Americans, but are ALSO subject to the full range of American laws and to investigation by American law enforcement agencies - not those who travel the world using the anonymity of fictional documents and the cover of hospitable foreign regimes to avoid the eyes of justice.


18 posted on 06/13/2008 6:45:57 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: CodeToad

Did you read the entire article? It explains why the evidence against them can not/will not be used in a trial. They will be released “for lack of evidence”....


19 posted on 06/13/2008 6:46:11 AM PDT by Prov3456
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To: shortstop

UNLEASH hell, we can start with telling these bastards what we think about their ruling.

Supreme Court of the United States

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Clerk’s Office: 202-479-3011

Visitor Information Line: 202-479-3030

Opinion Announcements: 202-479-3360


20 posted on 06/13/2008 6:48:40 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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