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To: shortstop

“A lot of these guys will go free, and people may well die as a result.”

That doesn’t make a bit of sense. If these guys are guilty of terrorists acts against the United States then try them in court, show the proof, then hang them upon a guilty verdict. If they did no such thing then they do get to go free. How hard is that to understand?

We have lost our minds when we think freedom and liberty is only for us and never the guy next to us. Imagine if our legal system treated you that way: Never a court date, a trial or a disposition. You simply languish in jail forever because someone said you might have done something.


12 posted on 06/13/2008 6:37:27 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

Gitmo is not a jail. It’s a POW camp for Unlawful Combatents. This ruling is insane. Should N. Korean and VC be able to sue us for taking them prisoner in those undeclared wars?


14 posted on 06/13/2008 6:42:06 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: CodeToad
"If they did no such thing then they do get to go free. How hard is that to understand?"

Since when did we start fighting wars by using lawyers in a courtroom? Clinton used this tactic with the first World Trade Center bombing. That worked well, didn't it.

16 posted on 06/13/2008 6:45:00 AM PDT by shortstop (I used to wrap fish in The New York Times, but it made the fish stink.)
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To: CodeToad

If these guys are guilty of terrorists acts against the United States then try them in court, show the proof...

...blow your network, get your agents killed, and never find an agent again.

The constitution was written to institutionalize the rights of citizens, who not only enjoy the rights of Americans, but are ALSO subject to the full range of American laws and to investigation by American law enforcement agencies - not those who travel the world using the anonymity of fictional documents and the cover of hospitable foreign regimes to avoid the eyes of justice.


18 posted on 06/13/2008 6:45:57 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: CodeToad

Did you read the entire article? It explains why the evidence against them can not/will not be used in a trial. They will be released “for lack of evidence”....


19 posted on 06/13/2008 6:46:11 AM PDT by Prov3456
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To: CodeToad
That doesn’t make a bit of sense. If these guys are guilty of terrorists acts against the United States then try them in court, show the proof, then hang them upon a guilty verdict. If they did no such thing then they do get to go free. How hard is that to understand?

Did you read the article? Are you being willfully stupid? A criminal trial is a lot different from a military tribunal, one big difference being full disclosure to the defense. Some sources cannot be revealed for security reasons. Additionally, in a full-blown criminal trial all the technicalities apply. Zacharias Massaoui didn't get the death penalty for instance.

21 posted on 06/13/2008 6:53:45 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: CodeToad

You are assuming that terrorist play by gentleman’s rules. Their version of a trial is to crank up a video camera and make a video of beheading their captives.


28 posted on 06/13/2008 7:32:40 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: CodeToad

Why let them go? There’s no reason to. In any case, according to the laws and usages of war these pukes aren’t exactly criminals ~ they’re more in the class of ununiformed saboteurs.


33 posted on 06/13/2008 10:20:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CodeToad

BTW, foreign terrorists do not have a right to our liberties. The USSC is wrong. I suspect most of them have taken money from AlQaida and the Saddam Hussein interests.


35 posted on 06/13/2008 10:21:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CodeToad
Do you realize that terrorists now enjoy greater legal protection than the servicemen we send to fight them?
40 posted on 06/13/2008 1:27:46 PM PDT by Jacquerie ('Tis a pity that judicial tyrants do not fear for their personal safety.)
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To: CodeToad
We captured tens of thousands of Germans in WWII. Should each of these POWs had their day in court? Should the soldier who captured them had to testify?

The terrorists blend into the local population and are irregulars at best, and well below the level of soldiers fighting in a recognized uniform.

POWS are held until the end of hostilities. It would be a gift to Islamic dirtbags to treat them the same way.

41 posted on 06/13/2008 1:29:46 PM PDT by Jacquerie ('Tis a pity that judicial tyrants do not fear for their personal safety.)
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