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Tree From 2,000-Year-Old Seed Doing Well (Methuselah)
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| 6-12-2008
| RANDOLPH E. SCHMID
Posted on 06/12/2008 5:51:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Plants are amazing things.
To: blam
The real Methuselah tree, a Bristlecone Pine, some 20 miles east of my home in the White Mountains is the oldest living tree in the world at nearly 5,000 years of age and still growing.
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posted on
06/12/2008 7:44:47 PM PDT
by
Inyo-Mono
(If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
To: Lijahsbubbe; Diego1618; Jeremiah Jr
Raising the dead is very difficult, so it's better to preserve them before they become extinct," she said. Genesis 50:2 And Joseph commanded his servants the physicians to embalm his father: and the physicians embalmed Israel.
Genesis 50:26 So Joseph died, being an hundred and ten years old: and they embalmed him, and he was put in a coffin in Egypt.
Methuselah = מתושלח = met v' salach = [he] died and/yet [he] sent
Genesis 45:25-28
25 And they went up out of Egypt, and came into the land of Canaan unto Jacob their father,
26 And told him, saying, Joseph is yet alive, and he is governor over all the land of Egypt. And Jacob's heart fainted, for he believed them not.
27 And they told him all the words of Joseph, which he had said unto them: and when he saw the wagons which Joseph had sent [salach] to carry him, the spirit of Jacob their father revived:
28 And Israel said, It is enough; Joseph my son is yet alive: I will go and see him before I die.
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posted on
06/12/2008 8:27:09 PM PDT
by
Ezekiel
To: Inyo-Mono
The real Methuselah tree, a Bristlecone Pine, some 20 miles east of my home in the White Mountains is the oldest living tree in the world at nearly 5,000 years of age and still growing.
The Swedes have it beat... theirs is 9900+ years old:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080414-oldest-tree.html
Oldest Living Tree Found in Sweden
April 14, 2008
The world's oldest known living tree, a conifer that first took root at the end of the last Ice Age, has been discovered in Sweden, researchers say.
The visible portion of the 13-foot-tall (4-meter-tall) "Christmas tree" isn't ancient, but its root system has been growing for 9,550 years, according to a team led by Leif Kullman, professor at Umeå University's department of ecology and environmental science in Sweden.
Discovered in 2004, the lone Norway spruceof the species traditionally used to decorate European homes during Christmasrepresents the planet's longest-lived identified plant, Kullman said.
The researchers found the shrubby mountain survivor at an altitude of 2,985 feet (910 meters) in Dalarna Province.
The tree's incredible longevity is largely due to its ability to clone itself, Kullman said.
The spruce's stems or trunks have a lifespan of around 600 years, "but as soon as a stem dies, a new one emerges from the same root stock," Kullman explained. "So the tree has a very long life expectancy."
Radiocarbon Dating
Bristlecone pines in the western United States are generally recognized as the world's oldest continuously standing trees.
The most ancient recorded, from California's White Mountains, is dated to around 5,000 years ago.
Bristlecone pines are aged by counting tree rings, which form annually within their trunks.
But in the case of the Norway spruce, ancient remnants of its roots were radiocarbon dated.
The study team also identified other ancient spruces in Sweden that were between 5,000 and 6,000 years old.
Trees much older than 9,550 years would be impossible in Sweden, because ice sheets covered the country until the end of the last Ice Age around 11,000 years ago, Kullman noted.
March of the Trees
The research forms part of an ongoing study into how and when trees colonized Scandinavia after it had thawed.
"Prior to our studies the general conception was that spruce migrated to this area about 2,000 years ago, so now you will have to rewrite the textbooks," Kullman said.
"Deglaciation seems to have occurred much earlier than generally thought," he added. "Perhaps the ice sheet during the Ice Age was much thinner than previously believed."
The tree study may also help shed light on how plants will respond to current climate change, Kullman said.
"We can see trees have an ability to migrate much faster than people had believed," he said.
(Related: "Arctic Redwood Fossils Are Clues to Ancient Climates" [March 26, 2002].)
In fact, global warming made the ancient mountain conifers easier for the study team to find.
"For many millennia they survived in the mountain tundra as low-growing shrubs perhaps less than a meter high," Kullman said. "Now they are growing up like mushroomsyou can see them quite readily."
Rising Timberline
But climate change could also swamp these living Ice Age relics, he warned.
The treeline has climbed up to 655 feet (200 meters) in altitude during the past century in the central Sweden study area, the team found.
"A great change in the landscape is going on," Kullman said. "Some lower mountains which were bare tundra less than a hundred years ago are totally covered by forest today."
Mountains tend to provide a refuge for the planet's most venerable trees because of reduced competition from neighbors and other plants and because the sparser vegetation around the timberline is less vulnerable to forest fires, Kullman said.
Another factor is reduced human impacts such as logging, said Tom Harlan of the Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research at the University of Arizona.
"Human activity lower down has demolished all sorts of things that could have been extremely old," he said.
Harlan says the newly dated Swedish spruce trees have "quite an extraordinary age."
"I have no great problems with them having a tree which has been growing there for more than 8,000 years," he said. "The date seems a little early but not out of line with other things we have seen."
For instance, Harlan noted, dead remains of Californian bristlecone pines dating to about 7,500 years ago have been found up to 500 feet (150 meters) higher in altitude than any living bristlecones.
"So there was a time period then when trees were pushing aggressively into areas they had not been in before," he said.
Other tree clones may have an even more ancient lineage than the Swedish spruces, he added.
Research suggests that stands of Huon pines on the Australian island of Tasmania possibly date back more than 10,000 years.
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posted on
06/12/2008 8:45:22 PM PDT
by
CarrotAndStick
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To: Quix
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posted on
06/12/2008 8:56:21 PM PDT
by
Joya
(Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
To: hosepipe
I don't think we know yet whether or not it will fruit.
Plus...it needs a tree of the opposite “sex.” We'll have to crossbreed, I'm guessing.
BUT some trees don't come to fruition.
(Smacks herself for being negative...but realistic.)
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posted on
06/12/2008 9:02:17 PM PDT
by
bannie
(clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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06/12/2008 9:57:34 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: blam
Works for me
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posted on
06/12/2008 10:59:20 PM PDT
by
Squidpup
("Fight the Good Fight")
To: blam
Now I’m going to feel guilty when I pop corn or eat peanuts. ;-)
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posted on
06/12/2008 11:04:37 PM PDT
by
r_barton
To: blam
Oh, cool! I hope it THRIVES.
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06/13/2008 7:43:21 AM PDT
by
cake_crumb
(Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
To: blam
Wow, thanks for that post. It will be really interesting to follow it’s growth. Wonder if they can clone it?
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posted on
06/13/2008 7:45:27 AM PDT
by
Dustbunny
(Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
To: blam
One thing they don't know yet is whether it's a boy or girl. Date palms differ by sex, but experts can't tell the difference until the tree is six or seven years old.
Can't they just lift up a palm frond and take a peek?
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posted on
06/13/2008 7:50:16 AM PDT
by
reagan_fanatic
(I'm not normally this grouchy - wait a minute, yes I am.)
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Note: this topic is from 6/12/2008. Thanks blam. A re-ping.
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posted on
05/21/2016 1:34:32 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
To: SunkenCiv
They have determined it is a male and may start making dates by 2022.
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posted on
05/21/2016 1:50:34 PM PDT
by
Sawdring
To: blam
Life force on this planet is amazing. Miracles of God, over and over again.
About 9 years ago a 100 MPH wind snapped two of our old Walnut trees. I couldn’t save them so I cut them off at the stump. The trunk at it’s base is over 3’ wide. I figured I would let the stumps rot for awhile before removing them.
Last year I was down in the orchard getting ready to park it out...part of a never ending project on our entire 5 acres. I was amazed to find not only growth on these tree stumps, that were over 100 years old, but it was actually producing walnuts.
Life, it’s amazing.
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posted on
05/21/2016 2:16:24 PM PDT
by
Gator113
(~~Vote Trump 2016~~ Just livin' life my way. Don't worry, everything's gonna be alright. 👍)
To: Sawdring
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posted on
05/21/2016 4:08:34 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
To: SunkenCiv
This is wonderful, but it’s a shame that only one see sprouted.
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posted on
05/21/2016 6:22:14 PM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(Keep calm and Pray on.)
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