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Daily Kos posts copy of Obama's birth certification
Hot Air ^ | 6/12/2008 | Allahpundit

Posted on 06/12/2008 3:10:54 PM PDT by Oyarsa

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To: processing please hold
Certification of live birth isn't good enough to get a drivers license in La

Yep. It certifies nothing as far as I can tell. No way it would get you a passport.

221 posted on 06/12/2008 7:42:22 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: the anti-liberal

I hate to say it but your text is shopped better then their's was it's cleaner clearer and looks more original then what they are passing off as real. Yours is even blended better so that it doesn't have the white outlines, or fuzz to the letters one gets from inserting the words into a picture via different layers.

Anyone looking at this zoomed in version can clearly see that in both cases the lettering appears to have been photo shopped in.

By the way for anyone that cares this image was viewed at 800% zoom.

222 posted on 06/12/2008 7:43:04 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: txflake
Someone simply scanned or photographed (with your standard 8.5 pixel camera) the document and then called it up through Photo shop to change its size for use on the website where it's posted.

Frankly I'd use Microsoft's stuff to do that part of the job ~ faster, easier, and it looks just as good for Internet purposes (the freebie they issued with FrontPage).

223 posted on 06/12/2008 7:43:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: the anti-liberal
including the whomever posted this to Kos.

I agree.

They must be getting scared if this is what they had to pull out of their hat.

224 posted on 06/12/2008 7:43:40 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: txflake; aruanan
I had had my son's birth certificate but no longer since he's of age and needs it for his own proofs and documentation. I don't recall if it had a 'race' item on it.

But let's cut to the chase. In the '60s there were few hospitals in Honolulu; Queen's, Kaiser, Kapiolani and Straub Clinic (which wasn't an operating hospital till the '70s). Shriners is here but that's for kids with orthopedic problems. One other is Ft Shafter VA hospital, unlikely that Obama or Dunham would have been delivered there. So we're down to three.

I'd check admissions for the mother instead of trying to track down the infant's birth certificate. It's doubtful that the mother or father had funds to pay the bill, so I'd check accounts receivable for the grandparents names, the date, services provided and settlement.
225 posted on 06/12/2008 7:44:29 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: usmcobra
The two documents have different pixel counts and "sizes". Never forget "size".

Back in the early days of electronic photo enhancement a guy showed me a picture of the Pope standing there with his hand on the Hildabeast's a$$.

Looked totally real.

In depth examination would not have revealed the extent of the fakery.

This is why non-contexted photographs are rapidly falling out of favor in evidentiary trails.

226 posted on 06/12/2008 7:47:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: usmcobra
The two documents have different pixel counts and "sizes". Never forget "size".

Back in the early days of electronic photo enhancement a guy showed me a picture of the Pope standing there with his hand on the Hildabeast's a$$.

Looked totally real.

In depth examination would not have revealed the extent of the fakery.

This is why non-contexted photographs are rapidly falling out of favor in evidentiary trails.

227 posted on 06/12/2008 7:47:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: El Gato
"Only if that seal at the top is raised, not merely printed."

Maybe the one they put online is embossed and they just ran across it with a pencil so we could see it. :-)

I think this is all craziness the reaction this has generated.

228 posted on 06/12/2008 7:48:43 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: usmcobra

The original image was already compressed - I had to reproduce the effect of compression on the new text. If I had compressed a couple more times it would look the same.


229 posted on 06/12/2008 7:49:35 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: trumandogz
I mentioned it because when my son went to get his drivers license, I gave him the one the hospital sent me. When he brought it up to the DMV they turned him away. I had to sent a money order to Austin, Tx. to get a true copy of his birth certificate. I'm sure they didn't send me the original, just a stamped copy of the original. :)

A certificate of live birth is not the same as a birth certificate in the eyes of the law.

Except when one wants to run for president that is.

230 posted on 06/12/2008 7:49:41 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: processing please hold; usmcobra

I mused that no Obama handler would allow KOS to post this, but usmcobra pointed out that the exact image is on Barack’s site.

Strange they’d give it to KOS first.


231 posted on 06/12/2008 7:50:52 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Always Right

I guess it’s just meant to have as a keepsake since it’s not good for anything else. LOL


232 posted on 06/12/2008 7:51:24 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: usmcobra

Is there any way you can discern the font of the date on the document to the rest of the text?

I only ask because it was in upper and lower case and the rest is upper.


233 posted on 06/12/2008 7:53:11 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: txflake; aruanan
Addenda: I just took a look a the published Certificate of Live Birth that's the center of this exchange.

That's bogus.

No hospital, no attending physician, no time of birth (I remember well the time of my son's delivery) and it was printed in color. My son was born in the '80s and it was standard form black and white.
234 posted on 06/12/2008 7:55:11 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: usmcobra

Clarification: the image I grabbed from the Kos site (the link in the story, above) was already compressed - and at the highest compression rate photoshop allows, btw. (Why would they do that? Why not post a high quality image? To make the text as blurry as possible, looking scanned. But look how much worse the printed seal is compared to the rest.)


235 posted on 06/12/2008 7:55:57 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: txflake
but usmcobra pointed out that the exact image is on Barack’s site.

Let's wait and see how long he keeps it up there. If he discovers this dog won't hunt - he'll take it down.

Strange they’d give it to KOS first.

Very strange indeed, which is what makes me suspect it's a fake.

236 posted on 06/12/2008 7:55:59 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: txflake; aruanan
Addenda: I just took a look a the published Certificate of Live Birth that's the center of this exchange.

That's bogus.

No hospital, no attending physician, no time of birth (I remember well the time of my son's delivery) and it was printed in color. My son was born in the '80s and it was standard form black and white.
237 posted on 06/12/2008 7:56:39 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: processing please hold

There are a lot of people like me, walking around without an original birth certificate. I have my naturalization papers and a U.S. Passport but no birth certificate and I have never been denied a driver’s licensee or any gov. document.


238 posted on 06/12/2008 7:56:42 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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Definitely not a birth certificate. Mine is taken off of microfische -- and you can tell it is real.

239 posted on 06/12/2008 7:57:20 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: aruanan
they would have written "Kenyan" rather than "African".

Was there even a "Kenya" in 1961?

240 posted on 06/12/2008 7:57:49 PM PDT by Perchant
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