Posted on 06/12/2008 12:30:50 PM PDT by pissant
Daily Kos has obtained a copy of Obama's "certification of live birth."
All of the information is what we have been told before - name, birth date, etc.. His mother's race is listed as "Caucasian," his father as "African." No middle name of Muhammad, no first name of "Barry," no last name of "Dunham." He's listed as "Barack Hussein Obama II," not "Jr."
(Interestingly, in the lower right hand corner is the backwards reflection of a stamp, "June 6 or G, 2007". Did someone request or process this record about a year ago?)
Site creator Markos Moulitsas mentions in the comments the campaign released it to him.
(Also, for astrologers, the time of birth was 7:24 p.m.)
Next time you get one of those e-mails suggesting Obama has a different "real name," send people to this post or that document.
UPDATE: I'm getting some, "Jim, this looks modern," e-mail messages. As Ed notes,
When someone requests a validated copy of their birth certificate, they don’t get a photocopy of the original. They get a fresh certificate with a seal showing that it came from the official registrar, in most states. They keep the info in a computer and produced validated copies on request.
This is a validated copy of the birth certificate, with which Obama could get a passport, register to vote, etc etc. It’s perfectly acceptable.
Obama himself probably has a dog-eared yellowing copy in a desk drawer somewhere; this document is what he or someone authorized by him was given by the state out of its records. Barring some vast conspiracy within the Hawaii State Department of Health, there is no reason to think his birth certificate would have any different data.
Interesting.
But I’m not sure I trust a photo of a birth certificate, posted on Daily Kos. Much too easy to counterfeit it.
If this is real, then how come Obama refuses to release his records to other legitimate press representatives? Daily Kos says that the Obama campaign provided this evidence. Do we believe Daily Kos? Do we trust some unnamed person working for Obama?
Maybe I’m being paranoid, but this reminds me of the way that kerry “released” his form 180 to friendly reporters, who then proceeded to cover up what it actually says.
Fake! But accurate!
Yeah, states usually stamp their seal when they issue a birth certificate. I don't see any indication of a stamp.
Same here when I needed mine from Ohio, although that was years ago.
Interesting that the document lists his father’s “race” as “African”. To me, “African” is a nationality just like the terms “American”. “French” or “British.” How was race described in 1961?
The only reason I can think of for the Obama campaign to release this via Kos is to provide plausible deniability in case a different original surfaces.
A fake but accurate copy?
Wonder why they blacked out the Certificate Number?
Faxed from a Kinko's in Abilene, Texas.
We had to do the same for our daughter when she went to study overseas a couple of years ago. We actually lost the original, and got a copy from the Texas Dept of Health. That was NOT good enough for her to get a passport. It had to be a certified copy from the state.
The wife had to do the same for her passport when she went on a cruise last year. She had to get hers from New York.
And I bet it had a raised seal stamped into it, unlike this one.
yeah - mom’s name was Stanley. She said that her father really wanted a boy....
Since this is a new print from computer records, someone may have done a global replace changing all references of Negro or Colored or Black to African in the database.
In gold foil, and they charged us $32 apiece! However, the state seal is at the top of the Hawaii document shown, and it looks to me like it’s embossed, although not gold-foiled.
Yeah—her father wanted a boy. Named her after himself.
Screwed-up family? Yes!
I guess Stanley Jr. was never really wanted and that’s why she went about whoring and having sex with older men.
Africa is a continent, not a nation. So it does seem a bit odd.
Isn’t there a FReeper in Oahu who can compare the documents and verify these issues?
Good luck trying to get a Social Security card with that! They require an official birth certificate - with the raised seal.
If that is Social Security’s requirement, do the American people deserve less?
And that name, repeat it loud and often.
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