[TLI]

FLDS "enforcers,"

Enforcers? hahahahahaha! Barbara and the crew must be really going off the deep end of self-righteous liberal "victimhood."

[CharlesWayneCT]

After reading this, I had to check again that it wasn't a parody.

Other FLDS members showed up on the dossiers for a variety of things, from staring down and intimidating witnesses, being an active member of Warren Jeffs' security team, or holding a high rank in the FLDS Church's hierarchy.

Actually, I agree that people who aren't in the trial, and who "stare down the witnesses", should be removed from the court. Observers are not in court to effect the outcome, but simply to observe and report on the proceedings.

But to go from giving the witnesses evil glances to being listed as dangerous is quite a leap.

I think providing Texas a list of people was also a good thing, so they could be on the lookout. But the way they are described here, if it was done by a private citizen, would probably be considered slander.

And given the description, if one of these people had been pulled over on a traffic stop, it could have led to a violent encounter simply because the police were ready.

Also points against authority for the fact that the seizure was April 4, and the list of "dangerous people" wasn't given to Texas until two months later. If they really WERE dangerous that was far too long -- but the delay helps show that the list may be overblown, as there is no evidence that anybody acted wrong in those 2 months.

Or, as the article says, that any of these people have ever acted in the manner described, OTHER than "staring down" witnesses in the courtroom.

Could they be dangerous? Sure -- everybody could be dangerous. Do we put people on lists of "dangerous" people based on their religion or cult status, absent actual incidents of violence? Apparently so.

I know this -- when one or two of the pro-Life demonstrators stepped over the line and were arrested and jailed, I did not appreciate that ALL pro-lifers were smeared with being dangerous simply because we had a common goal.

[rellimpank]

—they better watch out for the ghost of Orrin Porter Rockwell-—

[an amused spectator]

“There are many individuals who are willing to give up their life for the cause and you can never underestimate what a government fanatic is capable of,”

[arthurus]

These people are truly not going to be happy until they get to shoot somebody. They must have been promised some fun before they went in to the ranch and got foiled when the FLDSers just said “Yes sir” and “Right away sir” and they didn’t get the required flimsy excuse to shoot.

[wolfcreek]

Makes one wonder who burned the Governor’s mansion.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Folks, it looks like the Danites are out in El Dorado, and the judge is the target!

[proxy_user]

The FLDS has discovered that today’s enforcers are lawyers, not gunmen.

So let’s see, that’s illegal arrest, unlawful imprisonment, policy brutality....and libel!

[Tennessee Nana]

Danites ?????????

[takenoprisoner]

“Texas police have been standing guard outside the home of the Texas judge who ordered the removal of all the FLDS children from the YFZ Ranch.”

They should be guarding her from her prison cell. Oh, nevermind. She’s a judge. She doesn’t have to obey the law. She is immune. Supremacy clause and all that crap. On a whim, she can kidnap any child anywhere within her jurisdiction without fear of prosecution.

The fact Texas law enforcement believes it necessary to protect her from the parents of the children she kidnapped speaks volumes. It also speaks volumes regarding law enforcement’s willingness to defend and protect those who would abuse their authority from the bench.

[CindyDawg]

no comment, bump to find post

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Hey, have you guys seen this story?

[FastCoyote]

And the usual suspects show up to play the See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil game. I’ve long told people that there are enforcers among different Mormon sects, they trace their roots to the Danites and Blood Atonement.

But we know the story, the FLDS are pure as the driven snow, even though Warren Jeffs is rotting in jail and his henchmen are not far behind.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Ruth Cooke is in the film Banking on Heaven. She seems to be an unstable woman.

On the Larry King show on April 6th she said, "I have a right to worship any damn thing that I want and wear any damn clothes that I want and I'm sick of hearing how stupid and retarded we are."

She also has a few rambling posts on the Texas Polygamy website.

[commonguymd]

LMAO. It must be a fear of prairie dresses. I have heard of arachnophobia,liticaphobia,theophobia,gynephobia,mycrophobia, and eurotophobia. Never heard of prairiedressphobia though.

I suffer from politiophobia and tyrannophobia.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Dossiers of select FLDS members sent to Texas officials

Top row, from left: William Roy Jessop; Ruth Cooke; Lindsay Hammon Barlow. Bottom row, from left: William E. Jessop; Lyle Steed Jeffs; David S. Allred.

William Roy Jessop
• AKA "Willie the Thug" or "King Willie"
• The most serious threat affiliated with the FLDS religion.
• Reportedly has a passion for violence, weapons (legal and illegal) and explosives.
• Accused of intimidating witnesses at Warren Jeffs' trial in 2007.
• "If anything remotely resembling violence or intimidation occurs, you can be fairly certain that William had a hand in it."
• Has acted as a spokesman for the FLDS Church after the raid on the YFZ Ranch.
• Lives in Hildale, Utah.

Ruth Cooke
• A "wild card" who is "blindly devoted to Warren and the FLDS religion.
" • "We reviewed countless letters she had sent to Warren that confirmed her unstable behavior, as she talked of disturbing visions she had received and breaking down the prison walls in the name of the prophet."
"She is just the kind of person who may be capable of doing something crazy, but justified in her head."

Lindsay Hammon Barlow
• Several witnesses describe him as Warren Jeffs' "muscle."
• Barlow was "clearly in charge of the group's security."
• During Warren Jeffs' trial, Barlow "attempted to seat individuals who could intimidate the witnesses in their direct line of sight."
• Lives in Hildale, Utah.

William E. Jessop
• "Respected as a bishop in the FLDS religion."
• "He is a very powerful man in the community, but I have never received any information that would indicate that he is involved in anything of a violent nature."
• "Could be involved in the decision-making processes due to his position of power."
• Lives in Hildale, Utah.

Lyle Steed Jeffs
• Brother to FLDS leader Warren Jeffs.
• Acted as wedding security during illegal marriages conducted in Nevada.
• "Minimal information to suggest that Lyle would be considered a threat to commit acts of violence or witness intimidation."

David S. Allred
• Involved in the financial areas of the FLDS Church.
• "Fairly high in the FLDS pecking order."
• "I do not have any specific information that would label David as a threat, nor do I have any that would discount him as a threat."

Nephi Steed Jeffs
• Brother and personal assistant to FLDS leader Warren Jeffs.
• "To the best of my knowledge, he is not involved in any FLDS security and has no known history of violence or intimidation."

Wendell Loy Nielson
• One of the presiding elders in the FLDS religion.
• "He is not likely at this time to be involved directly in any acts of violence or intimidation, but may still be involved in their development, planning and approval stages."

Rodney Hans Holm
• Convicted of unlawful sex with a minor in Utah in 2006
• "Known to have significant disdain for law enforcement."
• "Rodney also was under the close watch of our court security staff during the trial, as he appeared at times to be attempting to intimidate witnesses from his seat."

Rulon Daniel Barlow
• "Rulon seemed to be extremely focused on the routines of our court staff and repeatedly seemed to be staring down the prosecuting attorneys and their witnesses."

Dee Yeates Jessop
• "Appears to be another intimidating enforcer for the FLDS religion."
• Was more interested in intimidating witnesses with "menacing" stares during Warren Jeffs' trial than the trial itself.
• "He has been described as a fanatic, who is blindly devoted to Warren Jeffs."

Samuel Rapylee Bateman
• "Showed an unnatural interest in the security procedures and routines of our staff during the trial."

Donovan J. Stubbs
• "Seemed to be taking mental notes of the security staff present."
• "Donovan carried himself well and seemed to be respected by the other members of the FLDS group. When he spoke, others listened."

Guy Curtis Bauer
• "Seemed to "make it a point to be noticed by the prosecution's victim and witnesses whenever possible."
• "Seemed to be there for the purpose of intimidation.

Guy E. Nielson
• "Appeared to make several discreet attempts at intimidating the victim and members of Alissa Wall's family."

Nathan Mead Jessop
• "Multiple witnesses confirm Nathan Jessop is a member of the FLDS security team."
• One of three men who came to a woman's home and informed her she was no longer a worthy member of the community, a task generally reserved for Warren Jeffs' security staff.

source

[fella]

And the governments trial of the FLDS by media goes on apace.

[Plutarch]

Polygamy isn't something that sprouts spontaneously like mushrooms after rain. It requires enforcement, and if the legal system doesn't provide it, then extralegal means are needed. Such enforcement is part of the legal-cultural system in Muslim countries. Mark Twain described extra-legal enforcement that the Mormons used, in their polygamous era (circa 1860), in Roughing It .

Half an hour or an hour later, we changed horses, and took supper with a Mormon "Destroying Angel."

"Destroying Angels " as I understand it, are Latter-Day Saints who are set apart by the Church to conduct permanent disappearances of obnoxious citizens. I had heard a deal about these Mormon Destroying Angels and the dark and bloody deeds they had done, and when I entered this one's house I had my shudder all ready. But alas for all our romances, he was nothing but a loud, profane, offensive, old blackguard! He was murderous enough, possibly, to fill the bill of a Destroyer, but would you have any kind of an Angel devoid of dignity? Could you abide an Angel in an unclean shirt and no suspenders? Could you respect an Angel with a horse-laugh and a swagger like a buccaneer?

[El Gato]

Texas police have been standing guard outside the home of the Texas judge who ordered the removal of all the FLDS children from the YFZ Ranch

Hope they are better than the ones guarding the governor's mansion. Assuming they are needed that is. If it's just for show, send the troopers who were guarding the mansion.