The Buzz about Barack’s Birth Certificate

michellemalkin.com ^ | June 10, 2008 | Michelle Malkin

[Free ThinkerNY]

Jim Geraghty takes a look at longstanding blog buzz over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, which the campaign refused to release to the St. Petersburg Times in April:

We tried to obtain a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, but his campaign would not release it and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.

Has anyone seen it? Why shouldn’t the record be in the public domain for presidential candidates?

Geraghty walks through various rumors now circulating in the wake of the Obama campaign’s birth certificate blackout, including this one:

Rumor Three: His mother did not want to name him after his father, and his birth certificate says “Barry.” Perhaps the most plausible of the rumors, as Obama was known by that name through much of his childhood and young adulthood. If true, this would spur a new round of “When Barry Became Barack” stories – a minor headache for the campaign, but hardly a major scandal.

Lest the Obama campaign start whining about this issue being an unfair “distraction,” John McCain underwent intense scrutiny of his citizenship status because of his birth in the Panama Canal zone, leading the Senate to declare him a natural-born citizen in April.

[Pagey]

Perhaps where the occupation line is listed on the birth certificate, he’s afraid of what it says: “Peasant”.

There aren’t many things much worse than “shame” to get someone to hide or procrastinate about something. It’s never the guilt, it’s the SHAME and let’s not forget that fact.

[freekitty]

So now they are hiding his birth certificate? Wonder why?

[snowsislander]

I got it from an article in the Honolulu Star, but there are lots of other places: http://starbulletin.com/2008/02/18/news/story03.html "He was born in Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children, two blocks up from where our grandmother still resides ... the place where he used to stick orange peels under his bed, where it got all dried out and ... nasty."

Thanks, that's interesting. There are several places on the web that say Queen's Medical Center, including Snopes.com and even on a blog at my.barackobama.com.

The Wikipedia listed Queen's Medical Center as his birthplace up until this version, where it was removed at 15:17 on September 13, 2006 by user HailFire. (For instance, see this version, the immediately previous version. In fact, the current entry for Queen's Medical Center still says that Barack Obama was born there.)

Not until just 3 days ago, on June 7th, did Kapiolani Medical Center appear in the Wikipedia article on Obama. It first appeared in this version edited at 13:49 on June 7th 2008 by user G.-M. Cupertino, and apparently is based off information at a webpage http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html (from September 14th, 2006, until June 6th, 2008, no hospital was listed in any of the Wikipedia versions of the article on Senator Obama that I saw.) If you look at the foreign language versions of the Wikipedia article, some of them still have Queen's Medical Center as his birthplace. (e.g., Italian and Indonesian.)

I looked at some other genealogy websites, and another one also listed Queen's Medical Center:

    genealogy.wiki.com

It seems unusual to me that we cannot even determine which hospital was the birthplace of a very prominent person who was born in the United States in 1961.

[ncfool]

Hopefully we will see the birth certificate. Obama the Manchurian Candidate waiting to install sharia law in the United States. What a great country we live in...............

[SteamShovel]

I'm skeptical. He would have had to produce a birth certificate to obtain a passport which he would need to travel internationally

Couldn't he have obtained a passport even if he were naturalized?

[firebrand]

I heard people talking on the bus today about a CNN program focusing on all the "rumors" about Obama. That is the word that will stick in the minds of all the television-brains out there, and anything they hear will be attributed to rumor, whether it's true or false.

Because they don't read. They just watch things like CNN.

Sometimes I despair. Education cannot keep up with the watering down of the schools and universities. The printed word cannot keep up with TV. The truth cannot keep pace with infiltration and propaganda.

Let's just hope there are still not enough ignoramuses out there to decide an election.

[snowsislander]

That said, I'm skeptical. He would have had to produce a birth certificate to obtain a passport which he would need to travel internationally. He has travelled as a Senator, hasn't he?

Well, technically, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad is a legitimate substitute for a United States birth certificate for purposes of demonstrating citizenship, but I don't think anyone has ever suggested that Senator Obama has such a document since he was ostensibly born in the United States.

[Chuckster]

In 1961 it would probably have said Moslem. When did we start calling them Mooselimbs anyway?

[Homer1]

Let’s dispense with this nonsense and discuss why the left’s policies on energy are killing us now. Between nuclear, coal, ANWR and offshore drilling, our dependence on foreign oil should be a thing of the past by now.

[Lumper20]

I thought birth certificates were registered with each State’s Department of Health and Vital Records? Mine has my father’s and mother’s full name. It has a control number. Now, I have a copy of my first wife’s birth certificate, that I just found, and; I will mail it to my younger sister, who knows her, as I do not want to bother any ex. Her’s is from Nebraska and has all same info except mother’s full middle name. It merely has middle initials.

How difficult is it for Obama to produce the birth certificate? Surely it is not classified.

[HawaiianGecko]

Here's a genealogy tree on Obama that I've been aware of for several years.  http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html   The base site that is, not Obama's particular tree.  It has it as Kapiolani.  I have a tendency to believe that Obama knows what hospital he was born in.

 

This site built by the Chicago Sun Times built Obama's family tree and gives sources. http://www.suntimes.com/images/cds/MP3/obamatree.pdf

[Radix]

"If I were running for POTUS, my birth records would be off limits. Just because he doesn't vote like me doesn't mean I'm entitled to every tiny detail of his life."

This has probably already been posted by now, but...the Founders made it a requirement that the President should be born an American citizen.

It certainly does not seem unreasonable to me that a candidate for THAT Office ought to be required to produce evidence that it is the case that one is actually an American.

[HawaiianGecko]

"the Founders made it a requirement that the President should be born an American citizen."

 

True, but the constitution apparently didn't foresee Political Derangement Syndrome as it didn't set up a commission similar to the FEC called the BCEC (Birth Certificate Election Commission) to ride herd over this tragedy that has never before reared it's ugly head. This lack of foresight indicates that they believed Americans would settle these questions honorably and trust their candidates unless evidence could be produced to impeach their claim. The constitution also says America is a nation of laws and we settle these questions with lawsuits, not forums and blogs. There is no legal reason for Obama to turn over his birth certificate unless and until someone sues him.  And maybe not even then. 

I mentioned in an earlier post that no one questioned Ronald Reagan's citizenry. Simply because people were a bit more sane in 1980.  Saying that someone "ought to be required to produce evidence" indicates is that one can start any issue they desire, and demand answers.  I don't have any right to his birth certificate. As far as I'm concerned anyone running for president is eligible until someone proves different.  That sounds somewhat familiar, kind of like innocent until proven guilty.  

I'm much more interested in how this man plans to waste my money than his birth certificate. It is my opinion, and a very humble opinion at that, this is such a non issue we won't be seeing this in the court system anytime soon.

[snowsislander]

Here's a genealogy tree on Obama that I've been aware of for several years. http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html The base site that is, not Obama's particular tree. It has it as Kapiolani. I have a tendency to believe that Obama knows what hospital he was born in.

This site built by the Chicago Sun Times built Obama's family tree and gives sources. http://www.suntimes.com/images/cds/MP3/obamatree.pdf

Thanks; if you notice, in my posting #223, the wargs.com site is mentioned in my third paragraph and the same link is given as you give in #231.

I looked at the sources for the pdf in your second paragraph, and it also lists the same wargs.com website as a reference --- and that's the same reference that's given as the source for the June 7th Wikipedia revision that introduced Kapiolani Hospital to the Barack Obama article.

As to whether he knows what hospital he was born in, I imagine he does, but I cannot find a single thing on any his personal pages anywhere that gives that information. For instance, his Senate webpage says "Barack Obama was born on August 4th, 1961, in Hawaii to Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham." (http://obama.senate.gov/about/.) His campaign website says "Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961. His father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya, where he grew up herding goats with his own father, who was a domestic servant to the British." (http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php.)

[Radix]

Your post to me makes too much sense for me to even consider arguing the point again.

[Jeff Head]

Do not despair. None of those things that we have a hard time keeping up with can keep up with God in Heaven, and He will rasie up those to fight for us and with us.

II Chron 7:14

[StarCMC]

I say we’ll probably see the birth certificate at the same time we see Bill Clinton’s Medical Records!!

And Kerry's 180.

[piasa]

So Barracko baby what does your birth certificate say?

I have no idea but the problem might be that it was written in a Microsoft Word font, was given some character by wrinkling it a bit and was then run through a Texas Kinko's copy machine a few times ...

[usmcobra]

Ronald Reagan served in the United States Army and supplied his Birth certificate prior to enlisting in April 29, 1937, hardly the Same thing as Obama who won’t supply his birth certificate to anyone.

[Mom MD]

same here when we adopted our son. His birth certificate looks no different that the one issued for our biologic children.