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Nelson bill would abolish Electoral College
The Hill ^ | 6/6/08 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 06/06/2008 8:35:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) introduced a constitutional amendment to abolish the Electoral College on Friday, less than a week after the Democrats settled on how to handle delegates from Florida at their national convention.

“It’s time for Congress to really give Americans the power of one-person, one-vote, instead of the political machinery selecting candidates and electing our president,” Nelson said in a release announcing the amendment.

Nelson had announced he would offer the legislation in an address to his state’s senate in March.

Nelson said his principal argument for making the change is that the Electoral College permits a candidate with fewer votes nationally to win the presidency by capturing narrow victories in big states. In 2000, then-Vice President Al Gore won the popular votes but George W. Bush won the Electoral College.

Nelson cited that election along with this year’s contentious Democratic primary in Florida as reasons for his legislation. He sued the DNC last fall for initially refusing to recognize Florida’s full delegation at the Democratic National Convention.

Democrats on Friday decided to give each of Florida’s delegates a half-vote as a penalty for moving their primary ahead on the calendar without party approval. The move created a mess for the party after Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), whom Nelson supported, won the primary. The result was disputed because candidates had avoided campaigning in the state. In addition to the Electoral College amendment, the bill would establish rotating primaries for presidential nominations, expand voting options and methods and try to improve voter registration and verification.

Legislation to abolish the Electoral College is not entirely foreign to the 110 Congress. Reps. Gene Green (D-Texas) and Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) introduced similar amendments in the House in early 2007.

The second part of the initiative would establish rotating, interregional primaries between March and June during a presidential election year as an alternative to the current primary and caucus system. The third portion would permit early presidential voting nationwide, require voting machines to produce a verifiable paper record, and encourage voting by mail, among other things.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 110th; abolish; billnelson; electoralcollege; florida2008; floriduh; howtostealanelection; selectednotelected
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1 posted on 06/06/2008 8:35:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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The China Florida Syndrome?
2 posted on 06/06/2008 8:36:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
up your nelson!!!!!

typical commie

3 posted on 06/06/2008 8:37:25 PM PDT by shadowcat
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To: NormsRevenge

Can’t win? Change the rules! So typical of them. Obama won and they can’t admit it. I say to them “let it go and stop the whining.”


4 posted on 06/06/2008 8:40:07 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: NormsRevenge

I was wondering with what system Nelson proposes to use for the popular vote. A runoff system if no candidate gets over 50% + 1 or first past the post even if the winner gets say only 40% in a multiple person race.


5 posted on 06/06/2008 8:40:26 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: shadowcat
I wouldn't mind seeing the Electoral College tabulated by congressional district.
6 posted on 06/06/2008 8:41:14 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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To: NormsRevenge

There is mathematics to show that small states will have a reduced influence. Therefore, their legislatures will not support the amendment. IIRC, it takes 3/4ths of the State Legislatures. This will not happen.

DOA.


7 posted on 06/06/2008 8:41:28 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (How does it make you feel that the Good Old Boy network stole the nomination from a woman?)
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To: NormsRevenge

This guy doesn’t understand Federalism.


8 posted on 06/06/2008 8:41:59 PM PDT by kabar
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To: shadowcat

so, according to democraps, we can judicially change the Constitution instead of by ammendment. when the Constitution becomes a “living document” it dies.

STDs Socialist Traitor Democraps


9 posted on 06/06/2008 8:42:05 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (everybody's shot. drive the truck)
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To: NormsRevenge

They are so burned over 2000. When the uncounted absentee ballots out West were counted, If I recall the article correctly, Gore lost the popular vote also.


10 posted on 06/06/2008 8:44:33 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: NormsRevenge

Of course. The electoral college was designed to magnify the power of the smaller states, as well as forcing the presidential candidate to represent the entire country. Getting rid of the electoral college would mean that a candidate could win California, New York, and Florida, along with a smattering of votes elsewhere, and become president. The Lefties would love it, and establish their tyranny of the majority. For those of us in Alaska, we’d have less than no representation at all in the executive branch - who would care? No votes up here.

What a depressing thought.


11 posted on 06/06/2008 8:47:19 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: cubreporter

I have also suggested changing the rules... by repealing the 17th Amendment.


12 posted on 06/06/2008 8:49:54 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Unless small states are suddenly willing to give up their rights, ain’t gonna happen.

This same attempt to undermine the constitution enviably happens during every election cycle.


13 posted on 06/06/2008 8:50:35 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: NormsRevenge; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; All
Memo To Bill Nelson:
Typical Idiot!
Click the Pic

Leave Our Electoral College Alone!
You less than worthless Jackass!

Why don't you do something you and your liberal pals are really good at?
Like......
Go play with yourself....
Excessively.....

14 posted on 06/06/2008 8:52:08 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: redpoll

Exactly! Those of us who DO NOT choose to live in some hell hole city will never cast a vote that would count ever again. considering the fact that city dwellers vote based on their much different experience in life and needs, they will make all the decisions for the entire country and i find that to be descrimination against those of us who live in the country.


15 posted on 06/06/2008 8:52:22 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: chaos_5

“I wouldn’t mind seeing the Electoral College tabulated by congressional district.”

Or by county.


16 posted on 06/06/2008 8:55:48 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Change the 22nd Amendment so all politicians serve two terms.)
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To: NormsRevenge; Joe Brower

Did the people of Florida really ask for this, Nellie?


17 posted on 06/06/2008 8:56:11 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (I tried to explain that I meant it as a compliment, but that only appears to have made things worse.)
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To: NormsRevenge
In other words, dems want to impose their troubled, bloated and messy system on entire country?! Thank you very much.
18 posted on 06/06/2008 8:56:23 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: EQAndyBuzz

This from the party that invented “super delegates”...lol


20 posted on 06/06/2008 8:57:11 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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