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No Graduation Walk for Confederate Flag-Wavers
Breitbart/WCCO ^ | 6/5/08 | Lisa Kiava

Posted on 06/05/2008 12:09:34 PM PDT by XR7

BLOOMINGTON, Minn. (WCCO) ― Flying the Confederate flag has long been controversial in Southern states but now it's causing a heated debate at Kennedy High School in Bloomington, Minn. Three seniors who displayed the flag will not be allowed to attend their graduation ceremony Wednesday evening.

"It was sitting like that in the parking lot," said Justin Thompson, as he held a Confederate flag that was hanging from a pole inside a pick-up truck bed.

On Tuesday, three seniors, each with a rebel flag on the back of their pick-ups, parked at Kennedy High School.

"I'm just a country type of person, country music, big trucks and everything, that's basically all it means to me," said Thompson.

"And then I found out later that day that it had been taken off when I got called down to the office," said Dan Fredin, who displayed the flag.

They were suspended and the suspension means they're barred from all school activities including their own graduation ceremony...

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.tv ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: confederate; confederateflag; discipline; dixie; educashun; flag; freespeech; graduation; prank; publicskrewels; rebel; silliness; teens; yesterday
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To: TommyDale

And I cut and pasted without changing the typo. Moron.

:-)


81 posted on 06/06/2008 2:17:01 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: TommyDale

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Minnesota

Yeah, you’re right, we don’t contribute anything. Mind you, that’s just one state...you want to look at the Midwest as a whole region, let alone “the North”, forget about it. Also, I find it funny that you chose military aircraft as an example of the great contributions of the South, since that’s funded by government money, which kind of underscore my point. I’m sure some Southern Senator had a lot to do with the location of this manufacturing.


82 posted on 06/06/2008 2:24:09 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
These days, Southern states are the ones that benefit the most from an overreaching Federal power. With the exceptions of Texas and Florida (barely), every state in the South is a net drain on the Federal budget:

Interesting. Do you happen to have a breakdown on the types of Federal spending in each state?

I ask because I suspect that a considerable amount of Federal money spent in the South is defense related. IIRC, the majority of military installations are in the Southern states, as are a number of defense industries.

Taking advantage of a legitimate Federal function (defense) is not quite the same as taking advantage of illegitimate, overreaching Federal programs....assuming that is the case with the Southern states, of course.

83 posted on 06/06/2008 2:27:32 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

My point was as ridiculous as yours. I’m sorry if you didn’t discern the sarcasm. Just be aware that the southern states offer many products and technologies that are affordable and still made in the U.S.A. because they don’t depend on union labor. We enjoy a good standard of living and a high quality housing compared to many other areas of the U.S. You make it sound as if you are still holding a grudge against the South for a war that was fought almost 150 years ago. Get over it.


84 posted on 06/06/2008 2:43:00 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: NucSubs

People who claim the Confederate Flag is a symbol of racism are usually the same people who were taught that the ‘Civil War’ was fought over slavery. That’s what I was taught in my California government school. Revisionist history...After seeing the PBS TV Series “The Civil War” I decided to do my own research and studying. It was a much more complicated war than we were taught in school.


85 posted on 06/06/2008 2:46:09 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
There's been a lot of debate, on this thread and others, as to the merit of displaying the Confederate flag. However, I still maintain these kids do not have any good, thought-out reason. Also, I'm really not sure if they do have the right to ban it. It's a big grey area.

It is indeed.

Something else that bothers me about this story is the underlying idea that school kids need to be protected from everything offensive, distracting, or controversial. It's almost like kids are being conditioned to be perfect P.C. sheep...the overly litigious employees and parents of the future. I don't think that's healthy.

I understand that schools can't be a free-for-all. But at the same time, kids need to learn that sometimes people are going to hold beliefs they don't like or have a style they don't approve of. When that happens, they shouldn't be taught to expect someone to just banish whatever it is that makes them uncomfortable or excited. Living in a free society requires being able to operate even when the people around you are a little weird. Or a little stupid.

86 posted on 06/06/2008 2:46:17 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: timm22

Unfortunately, I don’t, and that’s something I’d like to see. However, given that the poorest states are also disproportionately in the South, I’m willing to bet the majority of the welfare money goes down there too.


87 posted on 06/06/2008 2:54:51 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
Also, I can't stand Ann Coulter.

Sounds like an expression of personal preference. De gustibus, and all that.

She intentionally makes outrageous statements just to get press.

And every time the press soil themselves thinking they have brought down another conservative. If what she stated so outrageously weren't true, she'd be gone by now.

She'd rather resort to mudslinging than an intelligent discussion of the issues.

In the soundbite world of the media, there's no room for intelligent discussion of anything. You want discussion, you should turn off the toob and read a book.

She does much to advance her book sales, but little to advance the conservative cause.

Book sales = profit. 'Nuff said. As for the conservative cause, each who believes in it does what he can because the essence of conservatism is that we don't require some dufus to pull our strings before we can talk. (Although in Ann's case, you can get one of those talking dolls ;)

You don't have to like what another conservative does, You are free to do better if you can.

88 posted on 06/06/2008 2:56:12 PM PDT by thulldud (Congress does not want answers. They want scapegoats. (andy58-in-nh))
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To: TommyDale
Just be aware that the southern states offer many products and technologies that are affordable and still made in the U.S.A.

Manufacturing is an increasingly smaller piece of the American economy. In Minnesota, we have a well-diversfied economy, having significant players in nearly every sector.

We enjoy a good standard of living

That's a matter of opinion. I love a cold winter and despise humid weather, so I'd have a miserable life down there. I like living somewhere that's cosmopolitan with a lot of cultural offerings, which I've not found in the South, but also not overcrowded and elitist like on the coasts.

and a high quality housing compared to many other areas of the U.S.

I find in most of the country, certainly not just the South, the cities have largely decayed and the suburbs are full of God-awful new development. There are some exceptions, but then in most of those cities you have to be loaded to live there. Minneapolis and St. Paul are still very livable cities that don't require you to be filthy rich. Thank goodness, too, because we have our share of that ugly sprawl.

You make it sound as if you are still holding a grudge against the South for a war that was fought almost 150 years ago. Get over it.

I'm not the one still flying the flag of the losers.
89 posted on 06/06/2008 3:10:20 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: thulldud
I think she's definitely a symptom, not the problem. I hate this sound byte culture we've been reduced to. I rarely even watch TV because it drives me nuts.
90 posted on 06/06/2008 3:21:23 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
I was just raising the point that I don't understand why Southerners have such hostility towards the Federal government when their states are among the biggest recipients of its money.

Don't know that I would characterize it as "hostility", but what would be the appropriate response toward someone who tries to bribe me with my own money? Oh, that's right...he's adding someone else's money to it as well, so that I come out ahead.

91 posted on 06/06/2008 3:22:55 PM PDT by thulldud (Congress does not want answers. They want scapegoats. (andy58-in-nh))
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
I rarely even watch TV because it drives me nuts.

You're better off. The media are a poison, they spread pollutants of the mind, which is a whole lot worse than PCBs in the river.

Ever read Neil Postman? You might appreciate this.

92 posted on 06/06/2008 3:27:33 PM PDT by thulldud (Congress does not want answers. They want scapegoats. (andy58-in-nh))
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To: thulldud

Well, reducing the size and power of the Federal government is a goal that both a Yankee conservative such as myself and a Dixie conservative such as yourself can easily both get behind. Minnesota has proven it can be self-sufficient.


93 posted on 06/06/2008 3:28:20 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: thulldud

I’ll check it out.


94 posted on 06/06/2008 3:29:30 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Snurple

Students should whip out their confederate flags as soon as everyone has their diplomas. Then run across the stage again.


95 posted on 06/06/2008 3:53:08 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Actually, you are proving my very point. You have obviously not been here in recent years to witness the boom and have no idea what you are talking about. Stay up north, please.


96 posted on 06/06/2008 5:00:55 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
"I'm not the one still flying the flag of the losers."

Again, you prove that you know nothing about the subject.

97 posted on 06/06/2008 5:03:29 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: TommyDale
I decided to do my own research and studying. It was a much more complicated war than we were taught in school.

I did the same. I spent about 15 years studying it.

It was complicated. It was about more than slavery.

But slavery was THE motivating factor. Any serious study of what the rebels were saying, in speeches, writings, and letters, proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

All wars have multiple causes, and the Civil War is no different. But it never would have happened if 4 million Blacks were not chattel slaves.

98 posted on 06/06/2008 5:30:38 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: TommyDale
Actually, you are proving my very point.

What point would that be?

You have obviously not been here in recent years to witness the boom and have no idea what you are talking about.

Oh, but I have. My brother lives down in Virginia. He went down there for college, met a girl from down there, and now he's stuck there. He hates it there and has been trying to convince his wife to move. I hate visiting him there. I also have business in Houston sometimes, it's possibly my least favorite city in America.

Stay up north, please.

You couldn't pay me enough to move down there. I'll stay here where I can make some money and enjoy my life.
99 posted on 06/06/2008 7:22:01 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: TommyDale
Stay up north, please.

Pray heating oil doesn't go much higher, or you're going to have LOTS of 'Yankee' company...

100 posted on 06/06/2008 7:37:38 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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