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1 posted on 06/05/2008 7:17:44 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Ditto on what the smart guy said.


2 posted on 06/05/2008 7:21:34 AM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080604085704.nb9zbimr&show_article=1


3 posted on 06/05/2008 7:22:56 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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I have the utmost respect for Dr. Sowell but I don’t think people are going to believe that once Iran has a bomb, American cities are going to start blowing up. The left will easily blow off this kind of stuff as fear mongering...like we’ve heard before they’ll say and people will believe them. Don’t get me wrong, I DO think Iran, if at all possible, will distribute nuclear technology to it’s asymmetrical terrorist armies. But the key question is when will they be able to do that and what can they distribute. Getting their first nuke isn’t going to put them in the position to pass out nukes like AK-47s. On the other hand, dirty bombs and the like may become more common and THAT might be enough to again waken the sleeping giant.


5 posted on 06/05/2008 7:28:51 AM PDT by rhombus
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... Senator McCain has not spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America.

McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman... But then, I suppose it is only one decade of aiding those that hate America.

6 posted on 06/05/2008 7:29:36 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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I wake up in the morning and it’s a no-brainer, but then by the end of the day when I’ve seen him opening the place he puts his pie, I’m not so sure again whether it wouldn’t be better to immanentize the eschaton. War is inevitable.


7 posted on 06/05/2008 7:29:49 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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As usual, Thomas Sowell’s unsentimental intellect cuts right to the heart of the matter.


8 posted on 06/05/2008 7:30:51 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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"But, when all is said and done, Senator McCain has not spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America.

On the contrary, he has paid a huge price for resisting our enemies, even when they held him prisoner and tortured him. The choice between him and Barack Obama should be a no-brainer."

Amen!

10 posted on 06/05/2008 7:32:40 AM PDT by avacado
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BTTT


13 posted on 06/05/2008 7:34:47 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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The doctor is in the house!!!!


14 posted on 06/05/2008 7:37:51 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (The change Barack Obama will bring is called anarchy.)
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Fear Fear Fear the Obuma vote for anyone but Obuma
Fear Fear Fear the Obuma..
The McCain supporters :only one issue do they spue.
It’s too late guys, Most of US on FR will not swallow the
lesser of two evils this go round.
but keep it up the joke is on you.


17 posted on 06/05/2008 7:40:32 AM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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Thomas Sowell is correct. The problem though is that except for the war on terror, McCain would be much worse than Obama. McCain has shown that he can put an alliance of Democrats and Republicans together to pass his agenda. Obama can't.

So what is McCains agenda? He wants illegal immigration legalized, carbon credits, no energy development, bailouts for mortgage companies, massive inflation, free speech eliminated, etc. etc. And the scariest part is that he has shown that he can put the coalition together to get it done.

If we elect Obama what will happen? Nothing, and the Israeli's will nuke Iran to oblivion.

I almost like the option of electing Hussein. Having a known enemy in charge might be better than having a traitor in charge. What is the old saying, better an enemy in front than a knife in the back.

18 posted on 06/05/2008 7:40:45 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Rummyfan; PhilDragoo; devolve; potlatch; BOBTHENAILER; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Richard Poe; abb; ...

“But you cannot lose a nuclear war for three years and then come back. You cannot even sustain the will to resist for three years when you are first broken down morally by threats and then devastated by nuclear bombs.

Our one window of opportunity to prevent this will occur within the term of whoever becomes president of the United States next January.

At a time like this, we do not have the luxury of waiting for our ideal candidate or of indulging our emotions by voting for some third party candidate to show our displeasure — at the cost of putting someone in the White House who is not up to the job.

Senator John McCain has been criticized in this column many times. But, when all is said and done, Senator McCain has not spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America.

On the contrary, he has paid a huge price for resisting our enemies, even when they held him prisoner and tortured him. The choice between him and Barack Obama should be a no-brainer.”

— Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution

Anyone wanting 4 or more years of Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas as Potus to punish the republicans has a real problem mentally and ego wise or they want the destruction of America as we know it. That same bs got us 8 years of the Clintoons and the current rat controlled congress. Anyone who thinks losing is winning is mentally ill.


21 posted on 06/05/2008 7:43:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Vanilla Ice Priest, Pfleger,“America is the greatest sin against God!")
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While I tend to agree with Mr. Sowell most of the time I'm afraid that I don't agree with him this time.

I don't think that even if Iran does become nuclear weapons capable that it will mean that they will be handing out nuclear weapons to terrorists like candy to tots on Halloween.
In the first place, the uranium/plutonium needed to create a nuclear weapon can be traced back to the reactor that created it.
If an American city were to be destroyed by a nuclear weapon and the nuclear portion of it was traced back to Iran, Iran would quickly be American owned. Even if it was owned as a glass parking lot, it would be American owned.

In the second place, if you continue to be led to the left and you don't resist, eventually you will be on the side of the left with a mighty fight in front of you to go back to the right.
The GOP has been led to the left since President Reagan left office.
John McCain will do nothing to bring the GOP back to the right. The last decade shows where John McCain's leadership will take us.

If you reward the right for going to the left, the right will continue to go to the left even faster than it has to this point.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with Mr. Sowell this time.

27 posted on 06/05/2008 7:47:48 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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“When Election Day came that year, I could not bring myself to vote for either George McGovern or Richard Nixon. I stayed home. “

Well, he gives cover and justification to every person who likes niether Obama or McCain. Unfortunate.


29 posted on 06/05/2008 7:48:42 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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Unless the US and other nations start to get serious about their dealings with islam, this planet faces some dark times. The elimination of Ahmanutjob, Bin Laden, AQ or any of these so called radicals will mean nothing unless islam is wiped from the face of the earth.

I don’t want to hear any nonsense about needing 1 billion + body bags. We wiped out fascism without killing all the Germans...hell, we didn’t even need to kill all the Nazis. So long as islam exists, we are in mortal danger.


30 posted on 06/05/2008 7:50:34 AM PDT by Roccus (Fighting POLITICIANS is the war on terror!)
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When McCain, gets out of bed with the KLA, and starts sounding like Amb. John R. Bolton, on the issue of Islamic Terror in the Balkans, then I'll know he finally gets it!
31 posted on 06/05/2008 7:50:42 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (he might even get my vote............waiting for the backlash........)
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“Our choices will be to give in to whatever the terrorists demand — however outrageous those demands might be — or to risk seeing American cities start disappearing in radioactive mushroom clouds.”

Mutually assured destruction worked in the cold war and could work in the ME. Terrorists cannot build/attain an atomic bomb without govt help. As long as the consequences of an atomic blast in America are spelled out well ahead of time, our enemies can be deterred. For example, lets say the Iranian, syrian, and a few other likely suspects are notified that in the case of atomic terrorism, their nations will be obliterated, regardless of the source of the bomb. I think we would soon see the bodys of aspiring nuclear terrorists showing up in landfills.


38 posted on 06/05/2008 7:57:10 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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Where are guys like Teddy Roosevelt, Black Jack Pershing and Patton when you really need them.

How sad that we no longer have “leaders” with the cajones to issue the following

NOTICE TO ALL FOREIGN CITIZENS and THEIR GOVERNMENTS!
(EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY)

1. As a sovereign nation, you have the same rights to govern your nation as we have. Whether freely elected or despotic tyranny, how you run your government and DOMESTIC affairs is between you and your leaders. If you people don’t like how your government is behaving, we suggest you read some American history for the period between, say, 1774 and 1789. The world is awash in various sorts of small arms and other weapons. Getting enough to turn out your tyrant-du-jour ought not be a problem. Yes, many people will die (just as they did HERE in the late 1700s). It’s the price of freedom. But — and this is important to us — our SOLDIERS will not be among the dead. And trust us when we tell you that the casualties of your revolution will pale compared to those you will suffer should we be forced to invoke Clause 3!

2. Please pay SPECIAL attention to the word “domestic” in number 1.

3. The MINUTE we become privy to firm, corroborated intelligence that you have plans to harm the United States or one of our recognized allies — or, worst case — DO, in fact carry out such an operation, the United States and any such allies who wish to assist will come to you and request that you cease and desist. If you refuse to do so, we will TURN MOST OF YOUR LAND INTO A SMOKING RUIN. (If you’ve never seen RUBBLE BOUNCE, it’s quite a sight. Just as the Japanese saw that in 1945, we saw a good bit of that on 9/11 – and will never forget it. The Japanese never forgot it – and neither will those of you who survive!) We include in this list of threats AIDING, ABETTING, HARBORING, TRAINING OR SUPPLYING THOSE WHO, ALTHOUGH NOT CITIZENS OF YOUR NATION, MAKE PLANS TO HARM US OR AN ALLY.

We wish to live and fairly trade in peace with all peoples — BUT harm us or injure/kill American/allied citizens AND YOUR WORLD AS YOU HAVE KNOWN IT WILL SIMPLY GO AWAY — FOREVER.

(If you have never seen it, slide on down to Blockbuster and rent “The Day the Earth Stood Still” with Arabic/Farsi subtitles, of course. REREAD 3 AND THINK “GORT.”) And also remember that, since we have pulled our guys out of other nations and closed those bases – horribly costly activities with which we are no longer burdened, we have devoted those diverted resources to new, more effective human intelligence gathering methods using many of YOUR citizens as paid snitches (no more stupid Church Amendment!) so we WILL KNOW when you’re up to no good. And don’t forget that those freed up resources will allow development of more devastating weapons should we need them. Trust us when we tell you that they’re really cool.

4. And speaking of “cool,” once those smoking ruins have sufficiently cooled – and the radiation levels have fallen — we will put boots on the ground, clear any remaining resistance and seize your former property for the benefit of those who participated in the neutralization of the threat you posed. Casualties among our troops should be very limited because, as we think you have seen, the weapons possessed by the United States will leave very few to resist. REREAD 4 AND THINK 51st STATE!

Call us with any QUESTIONS. Or visit our web site at www.bendoverandkissyourassgoodbye.gov

Thank you for your support in this vital matter.
The SANE People of the United States of America

Until this becomes our policy, we continue to honor those who have paid the ultimate price for the freedoms so many of us now take for granted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WDrbbtaO0E
A photo was recently posted on the web showing a white board in a Marine barracks in Iraq on which one trooper had written the following:
“America is NOT at war. The United States military is at war. America is at the MALL!”

Indeed!


42 posted on 06/05/2008 8:03:30 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (RAT)
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When Dr. Sowell didn’t vote in 1972, the nuclear threat to America was far greater than it is today—that was the height of the Cold War. There was more at stake then as far as danger to America than today. Iran, or the terrorists are not going to lob over 100s of missiles at one time, like we faced 35 years ago.

So after that, it didn’t make a whole lot of sense. He didn’t vote when the threat was far greater, so why get your panties in a wad when the overall threat is less?

If President Bush does not deal militarily with Iran by December, the next President will have to. There is no choice in the matter.


60 posted on 06/05/2008 8:33:24 AM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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Thomas Sowell is a very intelligent person.

I did vote in 1972 because George McGovern was almost as unacceptable as Hussein Obama or The Hilabeast.

71 posted on 06/05/2008 9:00:29 AM PDT by TYVets (The Clinton Legacy the Daily Soap Opera Continues)
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