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To: Rummyfan

I wake up in the morning and it’s a no-brainer, but then by the end of the day when I’ve seen him opening the place he puts his pie, I’m not so sure again whether it wouldn’t be better to immanentize the eschaton. War is inevitable.


7 posted on 06/05/2008 7:29:49 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: ichabod1

I think war with Iran is inevitable, but not total war. I think total with China will probably happen in the next decade.


9 posted on 06/05/2008 7:32:04 AM PDT by Perdogg (Four years of Carter gave us 29 years of Iran; What will Hilabama give us?)
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To: ichabod1
We are much like people drifting down the Niagara River, oblivious to the waterfalls up ahead. Once we go over those falls, we cannot come back up again.

I think that this particular vision is occurring to more and more people. Lately, I've had strangers come up to me and voice their fears. They know something wicked's coming their way, but they just can't completely put a finger on it.

You may well be right about immantentizing the eschaton. Given what we've seen of our presidential wanna-bes, it may well be better to get it on now and participate in that animated contest for liberty. With an Obama presidency, we'd see the true face of evil. Perhaps that's the wake-up call that America's sleeping patriots need.

Titus Livy, ancient Roman historian, wrote in his introduction to his History of Rome that his purpose in writing was, "to trace the progress of our moral decline, to watch, first, the sinking of foundations of morality as the old teaching was allowed to lapse, then the rapidly increasing disintegration, then the final collapse of the whole edifice, and the dark dawning of our modern day when we can neither endure our vices nor face the remedies needed to cure them."

FRiends - that dark day has almost certainly dawned here. Those who think otherwise are whistling past the graveyard. Livy was right on the money then. As he is now. What remedies do we need to rid ourselves of our modern day versions of the vices that contributed to Rome's decline and fall? And who has the courage to apply those remedies?

56 posted on 06/05/2008 8:29:36 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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