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US accused of holding terror suspects on prison ships
The Guardian via Drudge | 2 June 2008 | # Duncan Campbell and Richard Norton-Taylor

Posted on 06/01/2008 7:24:18 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

The United States is operating "floating prisons" to house those arrested in its war on terror, according to human rights lawyers, who claim there has been an attempt to conceal the numbers and whereabouts of detainees.

Details of ships where detainees have been held and sites allegedly being used in countries across the world have been compiled as the debate over detention without trial intensifies on both sides of the Atlantic. The US government was yesterday urged to list the names and whereabouts of all those detained.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: detainees; enemycombatant; enemycombatants; hulks; usn; ussbataan; usspeleliu
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/02/usa.humanrights


41 posted on 06/01/2008 8:04:37 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: boycott

“I strongly oppose holding terror suspects on prison ships”

So do I. My idea would be to dump them all in the laps of these “Human Rights Lawyers” We’ll soon know how much the mouthpieces want to be in their defense after their homes have been burned to the ground and their mothers and sisters have been raped and murdered for showing too much ankle.


42 posted on 06/01/2008 8:06:19 PM PDT by SkiKnee (It snows, therefore I ski.)
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To: garjog
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43 posted on 06/01/2008 8:09:02 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: SkiKnee
So do I. My idea would be to dump them all in the laps of these “Human Rights Lawyers” We’ll soon know how much the mouthpieces want to be in their defense after their homes have been burned to the ground and their mothers and sisters have been raped and murdered for showing too much ankle.

LOL! Well said. muslims are pretty much the dirtbags of the planet. There's not a more violent animal on the planet.

44 posted on 06/01/2008 8:09:45 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Fractal Trader

Walk the plank, murderous, lowlife, muslim-islamic-arab terrorists! DIE, me harties!


45 posted on 06/01/2008 8:13:18 PM PDT by do not press 2 for spanish
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To: Fractal Trader

Of course we’re using prison ships. You have any clue how hard it is to set up for a proper keelhauling in a dirtside prison yard?


46 posted on 06/01/2008 8:22:04 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: garjog

“Do we even know this is true?

If it is, wouldn’t it just make water boarding easier?”
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Well, the Guardian has been known to grasp for straws just to make us look bad.

And yes, waterboarding is just part of the process, but I prefer to get rid of those scum with a kick in the back in shark-infested waters so they can meet their 72 virgins.


47 posted on 06/01/2008 8:23:00 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Rebelbase
The Brits used to keep the Thames river filled with Prison ships back in the 18th century.

"Great Expectations"

48 posted on 06/01/2008 8:25:34 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Liberty 275

USS Peleliu and ships like this, have very small brigs.

I have been on a lot of these ships when I was in the Navy, they would only hold them there if they thought they needed to have them close to the battlefield.

For example, the prisoner says he knows where a bomb cache is. They then fly in a strike team but they can’t find the bomb cache.

In the ultimate convenience of having the prisoner close, they could even fly him to the site.

Can’t do this if the prisoner was all the way back in the states.

These newspaper articles make no sense, they hold prisoners for good reason on these ships. Otherwise, they are too small to hold but a few people at a time.

If I remember right, USS Peleliu only could hold 3 people comfortable in their brig.

It isn’t a prison ship, it only has a small jail. Papers are completely off the mark.


49 posted on 06/01/2008 8:30:51 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Fractal Trader
Geraldo just claimed that Osama bin Laden is being held on the Space Station.
50 posted on 06/01/2008 8:31:25 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Liberty 275; Fractal Trader
what exactly is the problem with prison ships? Is there something in the geneva convention involving sea-sickness?

What does the Geneva Convention have to do with this? These detainees are not sodiers fighting in the armed forces of any country. They don't wear uniforms, wear any insignia, have ranks or a chain of command. They don't wear their arms openly, and they don't try to avoid civilian casualties. Even if Al Qaeda were a country, it never ratified the Geneva Conventions nor does it abide by the rules in the Geneva Conventions.

Terrorists are illegal combatants and should be treated with no more respect than spies, saboteurs, or pirates. Therefore I am outraged they are being housed on ships. They should be made to walk the plank in shark infested waters.

51 posted on 06/01/2008 8:32:27 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!)
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To: garjog
Prison ships? Killer!

I'm going to miss GWB.

52 posted on 06/01/2008 8:32:28 PM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: Duncan Campbell and Richard Norton-Taylor

"in its war on terror"

Chew it, pus punks.


53 posted on 06/01/2008 8:32:44 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: garjog

Keel-haul ‘em.


54 posted on 06/01/2008 8:38:40 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Fractal Trader
Hubby thinks cruises are like prison, except, usually in prison, there's no chance you could sink and drown.

Somehow, I can't bring myself to give a damn about the terrorists somewhere floating on a big boat.

55 posted on 06/01/2008 8:40:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: count-your-change
Being on a ship is like being in prison with the added danger of drowning. From Churchill I think.

*snort* I just posted that! Hubby says that all the time, I wondered where he got it!

56 posted on 06/01/2008 8:44:02 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

I was corrected. Samuel Johnson but maybe Chrchill repeated it.


57 posted on 06/01/2008 8:47:20 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Fractal Trader

58 posted on 06/01/2008 8:49:09 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Liberty 275
"what exactly is the problem with prison ships? Is there something in the geneva convention involving sea-sickness?"

Whatever made you think there were Geneva Convention protections for terrorists?

59 posted on 06/01/2008 8:50:49 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: JaguarXKE
I for one am getting sick and tired of the liberals in this world who seem oblivious to the nature of the threat we face.

If they have them on ship, and that's a big if, then they should throw them rag heads overboard! I think they will enjoy their 72 vegans when they get to allahland!

60 posted on 06/01/2008 9:02:40 PM PDT by oswegodeee (Dee) ( Born in the South and raised in a G_D centered home)
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